"robert arndt" wrote in message
om...
As usual, Keith tries to speak as an authority and is dead wrong as
usual. I have a demonstrator video of a Su-35 stopped in mid-air
(briefly) during a difficult manouver and there are plenty of others
who have seen the Su-37 do it too.

I've seen the Su-37 do it at Farnborough in 1996. It stood there on it's
tail stationary for a good 20 seconds before rolling over backwards barely
within it's own length and then powering up vertically. Very impressive
indeed.

Si