From: Mike Marron

(B2431) wrote:
Mike Marron wrote:

Coming from someone whose stupidly wasted more bandwidth than
all of us combined swapping drivel with Tarver over such inane
things as "pitot tubes" and such, THAT was a truly mind boggling
retort! And as far as your buddy Beaman is concerned, well, he's a
self-admitted Tarver apologist. Pot Kettle Black.

Marion, please pay attention. Yes I did argue ad nauseum with tarver but I
never stooped to his level of name calling,personal attacks and vulgarity.
You have.

As if. As if being a santimonious hypocrite somehow lets you off the
hook. And I s'pose politely using a clinical term for "cajones" is a
"crime" or a "sin" in your book as well?

That is the tactic of one who is either losing an argument or has no
argument to begin with.

I stand by everything I wrote, Big Dan. And you do know the difference
between having an argument and expressing an opinion, correct?

I sure do and name calling and insults ahve no place in a debate.

First, who said anything about having a "debate?" Second, there
ya' go again with the sanctimonious, holier-than-thou crap.
Now, let's quickly review some of YOUR namecalling and insults
in this thread alone:

1) Misspelling my last name while keeping yours a secret.

It was a typo which I have since corrected and I apologize for.

2) Accusing my Father and his friends of being criminals.

I said they committed criminal acts which is a fact. You misread what I said.
It is against regs to take unauthorized people on launch trucks, to the
flightline etc. That makes it a criminal act.

3) Calling my Father and his friends fools.

I said entrusting their life support equipment to an unqualified person is a
foolish act. I stand by that. One foolish act does not make a person a fool.
Again you misread what I said. Once I got issued anything on which my life
depended I would not let any unauthorized person, especially a child, touch it.

4) Calling fighter pilots the second biggest BS artists in the world.

I said they are the second greatest BS artists when swapping stories. Again,
you got it wrong. Watch a group of fighter pilots trying to out lie each other
over beer and you will see what I meant. In any event if they ever told you
anything about the Air Force mission it is very obvious you have forgotten it.

5) Accusing me of having no idea what the USAF's job is.

I stand by that. It is an opinion and was given as such.

I'll say it slow, one more time, so even YOU can understand, Mr. Dan
B2431....

POT.



KETTLE.




BLACK.


(In other words, glass houses, stones, that kind of thing.)


Comprende?

None of what I said was a personal insult or attack against you. I am sorry you
don't see the difference. Please note you just called me a "santimonious
hypocrite." Please note I have never attacked you presonally or called you
names.

I have, however, said you seem to have no comprehension what the Air Force
mission is, how it conducts the mission and suggested you go review such. I
have also said your 20 years as a dependent (base brat) does not compare with
those of us who have actually served. I have also said you have made an
accusation that the USAF was responsible for 9/11 and you have yet to produce a
theory to explain why you said that. I have also said that your assertion that
the USAF was responsible for 9/11 was offensive to those who have served. None
of this was a personal insult or attack.

It appears to me you have no way to back up your accusations and you seem to
think calling me names and accusing me of things I haven't done is an
appropriate way for adults to debate.

Once again I say either give us a realistic theory as to why you accuse the
USAF of being responsible for 9/11 or apologize to all you have offended and
retract it.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired