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Old September 17th 09, 11:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Steven P. McNicoll[_2_]
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Default Runway incursions

C Gattman wrote:

What part of the official FAA documentation can't you grasp?


I can't grasp why you're posting a portion of something that clearly
indicates you're
wrong while maintaining that you're right. Are you TRYING to look stupid?



You quoted the FAA at me but now that I quoted them back at you, you
suddenly fail to grasp the point? Read it again:
http://www.faa.gov/news/fact_sheets/...m?newsId=10166

"This means that the total number of runway incursion reports
increased primarily because surface incidents are now
classified as runway incursions."

Runway incursions--again, straight from the FAA--are now categorized
as A, B, C or D depending on the severity. I have offered you abundant
FAA resource material to read about this yourself. So when the FAA
refers to "Category C or D incursions," it shouldn't be too difficult
to determine what they mean. Especially since I just confirmed this
with an on-duty air traffic controller at Troutdale.


Perhaps YOU should read it again, or, more likely, read the preceding
paragraph which you skipped for the first time:



What is a Runway Incursion?

A runway incursion is any unauthorized intrusion onto a runway, regardless
of whether or not an aircraft presents a potential conflict. This is the
international standard, as defined by the International Civil Aviation
Organization and adopted by the FAA in fiscal year 2008.

It is important to note that the FAA formerly tracked incidents that did not
involve potential aircraft conflicts as surface incidents. These incidents
were not classified as "runway incursions" and were tracked and monitored
separately. Most of these events are now considered Category C or D
incursions, which are low-risk incidents with either no conflict potential
or ample time or distance to avoid a collision. This means that the total
number of runway incursion reports increased primarily because surface
incidents are now classified as runway incursions.

There are four categories of runway incursions:

a.. Category A is a serious incident in which a collision was narrowly
avoided
b.. Category B is an incident in which separation decreases and there is a
significant potential for collision, which may result in a time critical
corrective/evasive response to avoid a collision.
c.. Category C is an incident characterized by ample time and/or distance
to avoid a collision.
d.. Category D is an incident that meets the definition of runway
incursion such as incorrect presence of a single vehicle/person/aircraft on
the protected area of a surface designated for the landing and take-off of
aircraft but with no immediate safety consequences.




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