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Old September 18th 09, 01:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Morgans[_2_]
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Default Runway incursions


"C Gattman" wrote

What part of the official FAA documentation can't you grasp? You
quoted the FAA at me but now that I quoted them back at you, you
suddenly fail to grasp the point? Read it again:
http://www.faa.gov/news/fact_sheets/...m?newsId=10166

"This means that the total number of runway incursion reports
increased primarily because surface incidents are now
classified as runway incursions."


Read it again in context. Preceding your quoted section is:

Quote:
What is a Runway Incursion?
A runway incursion is any unauthorized intrusion onto a runway, regardless
of whether or not an aircraft presents a potential conflict. This is the
international standard, as defined by the International Civil Aviation
Organization and adopted by the FAA in fiscal year 2008.

Runway incursions--again, straight from the FAA--are now categorized
as A, B, C or D depending on the severity. I have offered you abundant
FAA resource material to read about this yourself. So when the FAA
refers to "Category C or D incursions," it shouldn't be too difficult
to determine what they mean. Especially since I just confirmed this
with an on-duty air traffic controller at Troutdale.


You must not have made yourself fully understood, or the on duty ATC in
uninformed.

After your quoted section, the article you posted a link to says:

Outreach to Pilots
The majority of runway incursions are caused by pilots in violation of
regulations and air traffic control instructions – also known as pilot
deviations. The FAA completed an analysis of taxi clearances and found that
more explicit instructions are needed from controllers to pilots. The FAA
has issued new requirements for controllers to give explicit directions to
pilots on precise routes to travel from the gate to the runway. The FAA has
also issued new requirements for aircraft to have crossed all intervening
runways prior to receiving a takeoff clearance. Future requirements will
cover runway crossing clearances, take off and landing clearances and the
adaptation of international surface phraseology.

End quote

This speaks to the general ways the runway incursions are taking place, and
the efforts made to prevent them.

You really need to talk to someone off of this group that fully understands
what you think you understand, and get set right. I fear for the fact that
there are CFI's out there spreading this level of misinformation.
--
Jim in NC