On Sep 19, 2:10*pm, Alan Dicey
wrote:
Juergen Nieveler wrote:
Alan Dicey wrote:

Part of the problem is giving away your position. *How about deploying
the SAM in a specially designed torpedo, so that it swims away from
you a significant distance before surfacing and letting fly?
Formidable problems of targetting the SAM, of course, and you've still
told the world that there is a hostile sub in the vicinity.

As I understand it, Polyphem at least IS launched via the torpedo tube,
and aimed by FO line...

Reading up on Polyphem, it appears to be a 60kM range cruise missile,
land attack or anti-ship. *Mind-bogglingly, it is fibre-optic guided
right onto the target, so takes off with 60kM of fibre on a bobbin.

Doesn't meet the requirement I had in mind, which was to separate the
apparent source of the missile from the submarine's actual location.

Mind you, if you could develop a sufficiently intelligent SAM that could
target overflying hostiles on its own, you could lay an anti-aircraft
minefield, and be miles away when the missile launched. *Pretty vital to
have included foolproof IFF, though.

Bingo - that was the scenario we discussed at the time. The sub
wasn't thought of as an active combatant against the helo or MPA, it
was going to sow its wake with a few of these canisters that popped
out an SA-7 at the first indication that a low flying aircraft has
overflown its position. The Kilo and the imagined SAM-packing Type
IIIs were the other possible scenario of the war-gamed sub-vs-ASW. We
were getting the impression that the old cat and mouse game (with us
being the cat) was evolving into a mongoose vs cobra situation. The
photos of the Kilo were widely distributed in our community, and the
whispers of the development of the cannisters were on our minds as at
least a possibility.

v/r Gordon