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Old September 23rd 09, 02:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
BeechSundowner
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Default Runway incursions

On Sep 23, 5:20*am, C Gattman wrote:
One would think that a yellow line in front of you should be a clear indication that you are still on a taxiway, but
when confronted with signage that isn't exactly clear on directions,


FAA signage is limited and rather clear. If you have problems reading
it, you should study your AFD or airport diagram BEFORE entering the
movement area, or find an instructor or experienced pilot to help you.


I do study the AFD. Did you read my response? The signage is limited
in choices as you describe but obviously you have never been at KLEX
or KBTR down on Bravo as an example for clarity of directions. KMEI
even looks simpler but taxi down to runway 4. Looks easy enough on
the diagram but it's not due to the lack of clarity of the signage.
Land on runway one and get off on Alpha three. Looks like a breeze on
the AFD. It wasn't the first time I landed there.

You can have all your FAA regs and definitions down pat, but, a pilot
who can't interpret the signs or stay on the taxiway is dangerous.


I know how to interpret the signage, I never indicated anything
differently.

A professional pilot will have studied the airport diagram and will
already be familiar with the most likely routes to the active runway,
or to parking.


You don't have to be a professional pilot to study the airport
diagram. I do this all the time, but that don't take away the
vastness of what to interpret on my way out to the end of the runway.

These problems are common, and exacerbated by fatigue and stress and
also fear of making a mistake.


FINALLY, you are coming around. This is my point I have been making
all along. In my case, fear of making a mistake and you would have
seen me saying this had you read my response.

You can have all the book knowledge in the world and know every flash
card, but when the rubber meets the road, human factor takes over and
this is where mistakes can conclude with a runway incursion or
erroneously taking off a taxiway.

Hence I use every tool in the toolkit including progressives with
turns when I am at a controlled airport I never been at before. I
even made a video of this.

My rule of thumb, rather sound dumb on the radio then do something
dumb on the ground.