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Old January 12th 04, 02:18 AM
Kevin Brooks
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"robert arndt" wrote in message
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Where the HECK do you get the idea that the majority US ethnic group is
GERMAN? What have you been smoking?


According to the 1990 US Census the German-American ethnic group was
number 1:

http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/1990.html

In the 2000 US Census, major sub-categories for caucasians was
dropped. According to various statistical sources there were approx.
65 million Germans in the US in 2003 making them the number 1 ethnic
majority group for a second decade now, surpassing both the Irish and
British Americans.

You have grossly misinterpreted the US
census data--read the fine print there, Robert. First, it is not a
"majority", and second, it includes all manner of mixes (for example

even I
listed German as ONE of my contributing ancestry sources--from among

MANY).
That is why your German-stuff-is-always-superior crap is so

tasteless--you
base your half-baked assertions on tenuous, or in this case stretched,
source info at best.


The 2000 Census criteria changed, I didn't misinterpret it at all.


You need to learn to read. Look up the definition of "majority"--your
numbers do not add up to 51% or more of the US population. And again, before
you go spouting off this crap, read how the census determined that
figure--read especially about first, second, and total ancestry, then come
back and tell me, one of the folks who listed German as ONE of my ancestry
lines, just how that makes me "German American". Your lunacy is growing...


Last year you were promising us a "new" German battle
tank--where is this curious weapon (in reality the Bundeswehr is trying

to
preserve what strength it has remaining, is interested (like the rest of

the
western world) in finding lighter vehicles to replace its older heavier
armor systems, and finally lacks the R&D budget to even attempt, had

they
wanted to, the development of a new MBT)?


To what specific post are you referring to? The Heer has already
tested a Leopard II with 140mm main gun. DB was experimenting with a
50 ton wheeled tank which can be seen in the Concord Book "German
Wheeled Fighting Vehicles" Series #7504 pg 48. That vehicle has been
tested since 1995. On the "Flecktarn" online site you can see the RjPz
Panther crane tank which is also testing. Then there is the fully
tracked EGS tank trials vehicle by KMW seen in "New Vanguard 24:
Leopard 2 Main Battle Tank 1979-1998" pg 47. Finally there is the EGS
architecture applied to the Leopard III design in RAIDS SPECIAL No.5
"Les Chars en Action" pgs 81-82. You may also remember that the new
IFV that was named Igel (Hedgehog) has now been redesignated Puma and
is on track. That doesn't in any way interfere with the KMW submission
for the Euro-wheeled family of AFVs- the MRAV. And then there is the
ultra-futuristic Kpz Lowe in the design stage.
So what are YOU talking about?


Where is the *new* tank you said the Wehrmacht was buying? H'mmm? Choose
one.


You have often pointed to some
allegedly secret, yet flying and maybe even operational, German stealth
aircraft--where is that one? Have you bothered to READ about how cash
strapped the German military procurement and development budgets

actually
are? You live in some kind of strange dreamland, Robert--come join us

back
in the real world.


Well, that's why since reunification the Germans have replaced nearly
all of their small arms, improved the Leopard II to world's finest MBT
in the A5/6 models, introduced the PzH 2000 SPG- also the world's
finest, the Fenneck, the Dingo, introduced IDZ supersoldier gear into
the Balkans in 2002, created KSK special forces (rated up there with
SAS- from scratch), are getting the Eurotiger and EC-635 helos,
produced bio-engineered anthrax under the Heer's research program and
sold some to the US in 2000/1, and contributed 13,000 troops to
operations outside Germany. They will introduce the Taifun UCAV next
year too. Meanwhile EADS is trying to get their Eurofighters, produce
the Mako for light strike and export sales, participate in the A400M
program, work on the stealth cruise misile and anti-stealth hardware
and convert Airbus 310s into tankers and cargo carriers. Other missile
programs are IRIS-T and Taurus S/O weapon. The German Navy is trying
to get new stealth frigates, AIP SSK submarines, develop UUCVs, etc...
Seems like a lot of projects for a nation with only 40 billion a year
on defense compared to 400 billion by the US. I think they will
accomplish more with less money until the EU unifies and the defense
pot is merged.

As for the Firefly II stealth aircraft, two were seen over the
Overberg test range in the RSA years ago. The RSA allows Germany to
test secret weapons there like they did off their coast with the
German subs provided to Israel. Germany modified their launch tubes to
fire the Popeye Turbo cruise missile and they tested it at sea off the
RSA. German technicians were onboard. So I am not living in a fantasy
world. You OTOH are in denial.


So you have no actual evidence. That figures.

Brooks


Rob

Brooks


Rob