From: "Tarver Engineering"
Date: 1/11/2004 12:02 PM Central Standard Time
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"B2431" wrote in message
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From: "John R Weiss"
Date: 1/11/2004 12:15 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id: cS5Mb.19776$Rc4.81757@attbi_s54

"Tarver Engineering" wrote...

Exactly where would I find a
reference to "a spoiler flap in a speedbrake configuration," and in
what
context?

Also, I just looked through 14CFR Part 121 -- including 121.343,
121.344,
and
Appendices B and M (the FAA standards for Flight Recorder and DFDR
operational
parameters) -- and found absolutely no reference to "spoiler flaps"
in
ANYconfiguration.

Or even "spoiler". Although, anyone familiar with aerodynamic surfaces
could use the full nomenclature for the fixed spoiler, or the spoiler
flap.

Nope.

14CFR Part 121 (as cited above) has references to "Ground spoiler" and
"spoilers" and "spoiler", but NONE to "fixed spoiler" or "spoiler flap".

The ONLY such "full nomenclature" yet discovered is in the Tarverisms.

We're still waiting for a credible citation...


It occurs to me that a "fixed spoiler" would be immobile and thus provide
nothing of value and should be removed.

Lots of autos have spoilers, as they push down on the rear for more rear
wheel loading. some formula one style racers have computer controlled
spoilers they call "spoiler flaps", so as to differentiate from a fixed
spoiler.

So, I used the complete name of a control surface and got trolled by a kook
757 FO. Here today we have Dan, parroting a kook.


You really need to pay attention to what is being discussed. We were discussing
aircraft, tarver, not "autos."

One of these days you may astound us by producing a reputable citation that
refers to the term "spoiler flaps" but I seriously doubt you ever will. Then
again someday you will explain how being an EE and a long ago jet mech makes
you an expert on all this aerospace, automotive, poli-sci etc.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired