You certainly make yourself a "moving target"--you say something
outrageous, then when it is refuted you jink into some other
preposterous assertion.

The definition of the term "outrageous" usually changes with time or better
with knowledge base,for example if you could go one century back and tell a
famous turn of the century era what you have in your household he probably had
called it a outrageous claim.
The (passive) stealth issue is probably best example,stealth proponents think
that f22 (orB2) has a bird size frontal RCS,so that they cannot be detected by
any radar at meaningful distances,while I say that f22 frontal RCS is insect
size,not bird size but it,like all other stealth platforms its very easy to
detect and track f22 at very long ranges with different radars.
The very first version of US multistatic went into service in early 1998,almost
a decade behind German version,so there is lots of room for catch up work here.

Andropov's
administration, but you overlook a lot of conflicts from 1946 onward.
Certainly the level of capability grew, but the perceived possibility
of nuclear war was present during the Berlin Crisis, the Korean War,
the Czech and Hungarian uprisings, the Cuban Missile crisis, etc. etc.
etc.

Do you think I forgat them?,during none of them including much publicized Cuban
misille crisis we were closer to nuclear war than short Andropov era,because
that was first and only time Soviet leadership was ready to say to US "Stay at
home or else"
Thanks to Mr.Philby,a top product of capitalistic west.

What you first said, when I asserted that Stealth (active or passive)
has resulted in low losses and high target success rates, was:

What active or passive stealth got to do with the extremely low
f14,15,16,Tornado,Mirage etc losses???

Now, you come back with "so what" only one F-16, no F-15s, no F-14s,
no B-2s (none participated in the Balkans,) and, of course only one
F-117. The more effective air defense of Iraq had no success against
stealthy airplanes either.


The most effective air defense US faced after Vietnam war was undoubletely
Serbian defenses,as Gen.Jumpers put out "Missions over Serbia on day 78 were as
dangerous as the missions on day 1".
Serbians wanted to conserve their limited air defense assets and did not use
use their assets agressively and US did not want to take to much risks.
This one of the main reasons why Serbian air defenses finished war almost
unstratched and US finished wae with extremely low losses.
After Balkan conflict many studies about the ineffectiveness of US SEAD efforts
have been completed.
You are wrong B2s participated in Balkan War and the events triggered by a
spoofed guided launch aganist one them caused a diplomatic crisis.

Really?


Yes

Nice editing here. The "Really?" was a follow up to your assertion
he

Air defenses,or the quality of any defense effort, could only be as good
intellectual,scientific and technological level of the people that own and use
them,as British learned it hard way during Boer War.
Iraq was and is a backward third world country whereas former Yugaslavia,though
not an advanced country by many standards,was not a backward third world
country either.
They managed to hit two f117s,whereas Iraqis, although they had better
equipment on the paper,were only capable of launching a couple radar guided
SAMs aganist them,and their guided launches were spoofrd easily.

ich of course, would lead the astute reader to question why, if the
US couldn't put out the radar eyes, they couldn't deter the attacking
aircraft? Either we did kill the radars effectively, thereby enhancing
survivability. Or, we didn't kill the radars and they continued to
operate incredibly incompetently

Almost every possible ECM asset were transferred to Balkan arena after hits on
f117s ,does it say something ?

EF-111s have been retired. ECM, for the most part is self-contained,
carried by the tactical aircraft themselves. Stand-off jamming is

Yes,EF-111s were retired in 1998,a perfect example of Air forces correct
judgement capability.
Do you know how the Navy argued to keep minesweeper force after Balkan war?