Uzytkownik "Ryan M." napisal w wiadomosci
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Geoffrey Sinclair wrote:

This is exceptionally foolish. Finding, something, anything to
contradict
is an exercise on propaganda, it implies either no thought or a
deliberate
attempt to try and distort the debate. On the internet you can find
text to
say almost anything. Above all posting such text and then in the next
post
denouncing it is plain stupid, why post material you think is wrong
without
telling people of the fact? Why post the material at all?

Agreed. The original post I made was foolish and a knee-jerk response.
I am very new to posting, and I have learnt from my mistake. It will
not happen again, believe me!

Remarkable how so far we have the Germans busily following the
all rules of war almost to extremes and the Poles doing all the bad
things.

Any chance of a mention about what the SS was up to at the time?
Since claims of Polish atrocities were used as justification for
air strikes presumably claims of German atrocities can be used
in deciding not to surrender?

I do not, or never will have any intent on trying to portray the
Germans as the "good guys" as I am fully aware of the various and
abundant list of atrocities committed by the SS, and other Germans. It
was never my intention to make the Poles look evil and the Germans
good. It may look like that, but this is simply my fault for trying to
show that even the "good guys" did not always follow the "rules of
war." I was not trying to justify the German bombing of civilian
targets through the description of Polish atrocities. I am not someone
who would ever support any country knowingly bombing innocent
civilians. Your last point about the German attrocities being used in
deciding not to surrender is perfectly valid and I was only trying to
show in my previous posts that the Germans had in effect warned the
people of Warsaw of what was going to happen. In other words I only
wanted to address the event that took place, and not so much the
reasons they did take place and who made the decisions, etc.


[snip...]

All this discussion is strange. Poles deserved, because they not surrended.
No, they didn't deserve. They didn't surrender because they knew about
German attrocities. No, they deserved. German attricities were because of
Polish attrocites... Jeeeez!!!

I cannot accept your explanation untill YOU accept what I wrote in one post
befo IF GERMANS WERE WORRIED ABOUT CIVILIANS THEY SIMPLY SHOULD NOT TO
INVADE POLAND! It was Third Reich who started this blooby war and I cannot
accept any assumption that German troops were 'not so bad guys' because they
dropped leaflets and warned people of Warsaw. They were bad by definition:
they were INVADERS! You would be right if Poland attacked Germany in 1939
and then was defeated, but this was not the truth - at least in this
universe where I live.

Sincerely,
Ryan Muntener
Vancouver, Canada

JasiekS
Warsaw, Poland

PS. I am not a anti-German fanatic. German language was second foreign
language (after Russian) I learned in the school and I had some German
friends. I simply hate recent attempts to rewrite history in the
other-side-of-the-mirror manner.