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Old May 18th 10, 11:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dave Nadler
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Default Losing time in Cloud-Streets?

On May 18, 5:33*pm, "noel.wade" wrote:
All -

I've been flying with the assumption that flying slow in cloud-streets
is always a good idea. *But in looking at some of my OLC flights I
wonder if my logic is faulty and I'm hurting my speed. *Anyone with
lots of OLC or contest experience care to offer feedback? Details
below...

My thinking has always been that your forward speed in a circling
climb is effectively "0" (slightly more or less than 0, based on wind;
but call it 0 for the sake of argument). As a corollary, anything you
can do to maintain or gain altitude while retaining forward progress
on-course is a "win".

Therefore, I've always been slowing down in cloud-streets or under
large clouds with apparent extended areas of lift. *If I'm anywhere
near cloudbase (say, less than 1000' or so), my logic has been that
I'm not gaining enough altitude to stop and circle with that zero
forward speed. *Instead I try to maximize the lift by flying straight
ahead (or slightly curving my path to stay in the zone of lift) at
slow speed (say 50 kts).

Rough math to support my thoughts:
With a cruise speed of 75 knots and a time-in-climb around 25%,
average forward speed is roughly 56 knots (75% x 75 knots). *This is
so close to the 50 knots (while flying in a cloud-street) that it
seems to support my behavior... *But maybe I'm missing something?
Maybe the gains I'm getting are not enough to offset the slower cruise-
speed during these times? *I should point out that I fly in pretty
strong thermal conditions at my local site (Ephrata, WA).

I could throw in all of my various caveats and details and thought-
processes, but rather than make this a really long post I'd love to
get some thoughts and feedback. *Anyone have pointers, ideas, see
fallacies in my process, etc?

Thanks,

--Noel


A few notes:
- the glider climbs much better going straight than circling, and can
fly slower
- you can fly through the cores when you fly straight, you circle
around them
- streets have narrower cores
- all this depends on the glider (harder to avoid circling as
performance decreases)

A few weeks ago I flew 440 miles, around 15% circling, mostly during
the beginning of the flight and digging out of one hole (flew under OD
at 2nd turn):
http://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-2.0...htId=502072323

Suggestion: Go look at the log files of the fastest pilots during last
years 18m nationals at Ephrata !

Hope this is helpful,
See ya, Dave "YO electric"