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Old July 17th 10, 04:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Mike Ash
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Default Best place to get gliding lessons?

In article ,
Jack Hamilton wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:24:30 +0000 (UTC), Martin Gregorie
wrote:


- What about the peeing arrangements?


As a student pilot with a small bladder, I'm interested in the answer to
that question. I'm learning in an ASK-21, and it seems to me that the
combination of a bucket seat and a 5 point seat belt makes a solution
difficult.


In my limited experience, nothing beats a dedicated tube with associated
medical-type fittings. Of course it's not always an option, but the
freedom to go as often as you need and drink as much as you can carry is
great.

For when that's not possible, I've had good experience with Travel John
products. They're plastic bags with funky gel stuff that absorbs the
liquid so it doesn't go all over the place. No idea how practical they
would be to use in an ASK-21 seat, but you can always experiment.... As
an added bonus, the TravelJohn bags also work great for when your (or
your passenger's) stomach contents attempt to leave the way they came in.

A few months ago, after a new passenger had taken an unexpectedly
turbulent flight, it was mentioned by one of the pilots that an ASK-21
takes about half an hour to clean out. I guess the glider was designed
for that kind of thing - my car, for example, would take much longer
than half an hour to clean out - so the solution doesn't have to be
completely spillproof.


We had a similar incident in my club a week or two ago, and it took
considerably more effort. Screwdrivers and wrenches were involved.
However, this was in the back seat, which may be worse for it.

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