Alan Minyard wrote in message . ..
Socialism and communism are, and have repeatedly been shown to be,
immoral.

Care to supply an example? A real example, mind you, not one that
roughly reads "such-and-such really nasty person did really nasty
things in the name of communism", as such examples can be found for
any religion or conviction, and are moreover mostly based on leaders
who went directly against the ideals they claimed to represent.

They inevitably lead to dictatorship.

Not true. They have been used repeatedly by power hungry individuals
to incite a revolution against thouroughly rotten regimes. Said power
hungry individuals then proceeded to replace the previous rotten
regime with yet another rotten dictatorship, which had nothing even
remotely in common with either socialism or communism. I should point
out that the replaced regimes were usually every bit as bad, and
didn't even call themselved socialist or communist.

I don't think either doctrine has ever been implemented anywhere.
Perversions based on communism have, and much harm was done by those,
but they were perversions.

I'll grant you one thing though. Communism requires an ideal humanity
to work, and it is very naive to believe such a thing is available.
Attemting to implement it with less than ideal humans gives ruthless
individuals way too many opportunities to seize power and corrupt the
whole system.


They are very shameful, and any intelligent person sees them as such.

Such lovely reasoning. I'm right, and any who disagree with me are
utterly stupid. Gotta love that style.


Rob