On Aug 9, 11:23*am, "noel.wade" wrote:
On Aug 9, 10:55*am, Darryl Ramm wrote:

significantly more expensive than a PowerFlarm (~$US1,695 list) by
itself (for it's Flarm to Flarm capability). When you factor in costs

Darryl - Where are you getting this price? *The websites I see list
1500 to 1600 EUROS. *By the time you add mounting hardware, shipping,
etc you're looking at $2200 - $2500 (not including installation if you
want that done by an A&P).

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On a separate note: *Some PDA software (like the LK8000) and "glass
cockpit" displays already have some built-in support for FLARM anti-
collision display & warnings... *Has there been talk about a
powerFLARM unit that is "headless" (i.e. has no display but simply
plugs into PDA or Craggy Ultimate or NK ClearNav or LX devices)?? *I
would think that omitting the display would save on cost & power
consumption, as well as allowing the unit to be mounted in more places
in the aircraft (instead of cluttering up crowded instrument panels or
impacting the pilot's forward visibility).

Anyone hear any murmurs of this?

--Noel

Yo Noel

The pricing I gave is the latest I have from the US Distributor. AFAIK
resellers will include the usual bunch, Cumulus Soaring, Wings and
Wheels, Williams Soaring, Craggy Aero and others. A quick check shows
the page at Craggy Aero http://www.craggyaero.com/powerflarm.htm.
(Sorry Paul, Tim, Rex, et al. if you have this on your site I could
not find it). Those resellers may be holding off advertising the unit
until it is actually shipping. I know some of them have been taking
pre-orders.

The XCSoar software on which LK8000 is based also supports the Flarm
serial display protocol. I'm not aware of what specifically LK8000 has
changed but I just wanted to point out it is a basic capability in
XCSoar... and most other popular soaring software and many flight
computers today... SeeYou Mobile, Winpilot, SN-10, ClearNav, LX flight
computers, etc. etc. etc.

A headless device would seem to make sense.

BTW the PowerFLARM display is pretty compact, and uses an OLED cell
phone type display so don't necessarily assume a huge reduction in
power consumption by removing the display. BTW one good way to
visualize the size of a PowerFLARM is it is basically the size of two
Zaon MRX PCAS units sitting on top of each other.

Hope that helps.

Darryl