On Sep 24, 4:15*pm, wrote:
Mark wrote:
On Sep 24, 2:37*pm, Jim Logajan wrote:
Mark wrote:
On Sep 24, 1:40*pm, wrote:
Mark wrote:
On Sep 23, 12:30*pm, wrote:

In other words, there is nothing in production that makes even the
120 miles you claim.

Jim Pennino

300 ÷ 120 = 2.5

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Mark

So now you are claiming that there is a pure electric car in
production that gets 300 miles to a charge?

Where is it?

--
Jim Pennino

Oh, I think you may find it about 8 posts
back above this one, where I told you the first
time. However, they frequently exceed that
distance.

The Tesla Roadster only claims 245 miles/charge.
The Tesla Model S claims 300 miles/charge, but Tesla says it wont be
available till 2012.

Oh yeah - the Tesla Roadster has a list price of $109,000.
The Tesla Model S is listed at $56,500.
There is a $7500 tax incentive that drops those prices a little.

You can buy a pretty nice plane for $109k.

At this juncture we're discussing whether the technology
exists, and if it's going mainstream.

No, where are discussing whether or not the technology is on the market
with a side discussion of how affordable it is if it is on the market.

I'm not smart enough to do that. I'll have to restrict myself
to one topic, establish reality, then pick another. Your main
refute thus far has been that it is technologically impossible.
You've said it over and over.

Is this still your stance on an electric car? That they won't
exceed 40 miles on a charge, and never will, therefore we'll
never see them on the roads?

In 1969 I paid $75.00 for a calculator. It had 7 functions...
[ On, Off, Add, Subtract, Multiply, Divide, and Clear ]

Complex chips were infant technology in 1969.

Yes, that's the way I remember it.

Batteries and electric motors are mature technologies.

So are wheels. They predate the pyramids. But I
wouldn't put one of their wheels on my truck.

All the improvements in both in the last few decades have been in the area
of expensive materials engineering, i.e. rare earth elements.

Yes, you're absolutely correct. I believe the greater minds
today are thinking beyond Al-air (aluminum air) or Li-air
(lithium air) batteries. The military uses Al-batteries now,
but then, our national debt is 13 trillion dollars, so what
does that tell you.

Smart money is betting on carbon nano-engineering.
Does Walmart carry these today on isle 12? No. We're
basically talking about a NEW INVENTION here. Same
thing with Li-air, new invention. Are these mature
technologies? Of course not. Not even close. The anology
to a 1969 calculator is...apples to apples.

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Jim Pennino