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Old December 7th 10, 03:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Converting a USA C of A from Standard to Experimental

On Dec 6, 9:45*am, Tony wrote:
another consideration is how restrictive the experimental operating
limitations are.

many experimental - racing/exhibition operating limitaitons from "back
in the day" are quite unrestrictive and literally worth their weight
in unobtanium.

however if you take your Ka6 or otherwise semi-common type certified
glider and put it into the experimental - racing/exhibition category
in the modern era it will have restrictions that involve faxing FSDO's
annual letters and getting special permission to operate more than X
miles from home. *These in and of itself aren't too tough to deal with
but as a buyer why would I want the hassle when there are plenty of
other non-restricted gliders out there available to buy?

I own 3 experimental - amatuer builts which I thoroughly enjoy.
However the restrictions on them are no where near as restrictive as
experimental - racing/exhibition.


And to the question of limiting the pool of potential buyers..
Any buyer.. if he does his research and wants your experimental glider
will buy it.

However, if he does his research, he will find that he may have to
reaccomplish the CofA with updated Operating Limitations when he moves
the glider to a new location. Unless he is already on your airport.

We had some club members that bought a glider in KY and moved it west.
Then they found the Operating Limitations were written for the glider
being based in Penn. The entire time the glider was in KY, that owner
had not updated the Cof A or the Ops Limits, nor had he faxed in an
annual Program Letter as required. The entire time the glider was in
KY. It was flying illegally without a valid CofA.. and the A&P signing
off the "condition inspections" did not catch it.

They moved it west, had to reaccomplish the Cof A inspections and
Operating Limitations at an additional cost of about $500 to the DAR
and was issued a new CofA. Yes, the FSDO can process the Operations
Limitations and CofA, if they are used to dealing with gliders and
understand what they are doing. If not.. you can hand walk them
through it, with a little pain and frustration.

If the purchaser does his research and knows.. then it is not an
issue. He knows what he is up against.

Personally, an older experimental glider with the less restrictive
Operating Limitations are worth they weight in Gold. So are gliders
with Standard Certificates that do not have "Operating Limitations",
such as some of the newer 304CZ models.

Yes, an A&P can sign off the experimental "annual condition
inspection". An IA is required for a standard CofA.

T