Hi Dave

This reply from you is news to me. Some of these comments you make sound
very critical of my son.

I dont like some of your email's tone and language tho.

I will reply as fit below addressing the points you made.

I could say the same about some people i work with in life everyday, but
then maybe i am wiser and smarter then you.

I keep my mouth closed sometimes, i just accept life as it is. Not all
people are nice and polite as you hope. You avoid these types, if smart
and alert.

As his father, i can tell you all, he like you and many other
posters/writers on the newsgroups i have seen lately, have a right to
express whatever the person wishes.

It is a debate/forum area in effect, many people world over, post
absolute goldmine of information. Other hand some other post vile and
rude emails. So be it.

Its called freedom and democratic right. I was taught that in my time in
the Australian Defence Force. I served to give people freedom as did
many others.

Have you ever served in a military job?

I suspect if people dont like what they see, a VERY simple solution is
to tune out, not read or just block the incoming messages they dont
like.

(My sons have taught me how to block things online quite handy i
think )


We do and as such... we have many filters on our emails.


Next issue.. moving on....

The individual you mentioned as stalking us was, was rather violent i
will unfortunately admit. Due to legal issues i can not name him.

He gave us all a nasty scare and was harassing us for a long time.
I found this out by phone messages and having to deal with this abusive
and threatening person face to face one night.

After been threatened by him, we went to police and had some charges
laid against him.
We met him again in court and we had a AVO placed on this person.

Sadly this person I found apon the court session, was a serving Air
Force member much to my disgust. It was found out in court proceedings
that he had been sending emails back and forth with my other son.

My family are not pleased with this at all i have to say. We trust this
sick person will never bother us again. We also laid a complaint with
the RAAF against this person. We are still awaiting a outcome on this.

My son who is now in Air Force is a direct honest and very bright young
man.

I will agree tho how he presents himself in writing at times may lead
some to believe otherwise.

He has never used any form of manners in emails i saw he send his
friends or mates before he left for the RAAF.

He just writes directly and doesn't care how it comes out. Im sure
anyone who interacted with him on this forum can agree.

I am only finding out now tho rather lately what was online, as i get
older i use a computer more.

I as you have seen lately, use a more constructed and understanding ways
to converse with people as does the other son, Jeff.

My wife has served in legal positions in past jobs and i will show her
your email later tonight....and see what she thinks also of this
news....

Yours truly and thanks for insight,

Jeff



Dave Kearton wrote:

"Aerophotos" wrote in message
...
| Dave,
|
| My other son is off with the Air Force, we dont comment on his
| operational issues, due to security nowdays.. im sure you understand.
|
| Anyone in the military service if smart, doesnt comment on operational
| issues outside the workplace as such.
|
| Just to inform you..i am a ex RAAF Mirage pilot from the 70s, and with
| my other son, we both use this internet debate forum nowdays.
|
| We also forward on my other sons emails in whatever form he chooses,
| from his time off work.
|
| So what is your problem?
|
| Please enlighten us... we all would like to know what your have against
| my son...
|
| Thanks
|
| Andrew and Jeff
|

Hello Andrew or Jeff.

This is the first time that we (or at least I) have had any real indication
that there is more than one person using the name 'Aerophotos'
For years we have seen his posts from your email address under the name
'Jolly Green Giant' At best, some of his posts are without tact,
at worst, they were offensive and racist (not all - but a large proportion).

I've noticed the difference in writing style and content over the last few
posts, compared to the last 3 years of posts that I've seen coming from
your email address. I apologise for mistakenly directing invective
in your direction.

If you're truly unaware of the nature of the posts that exist in Usenet that
are from your email address, I strongly suggest you use 'Google groups
search' to look through all 'Aerophotos' posts on r.a.m for the last 3
years or so.

I used the term 'special' in a facetious way and not seriously implying that
your son is retarded. He has few friends on Usenet that I can see,
few people post in support of his unique beliefs - which are his right to
say, thanks to servicemen such as yourself and the others who also took
offence to _many_ of your son's political statements. He is
entitled to believe them and say what he believes - but my belief is that
he says a lot of them to get attention or stir up trouble - within the
safety of Internet anonymity.

One of the aspects of free speech are also the consequences of saying
what's on your mind. In response to some of your son's inflammatory
posts - and at times offensive material, are the reactions to his
appearance on usenet.

After one series of posts where your son accused a certain ethnic group
(predominant in Sydney's western suburbs) of being all rapists and murders,
I sent him a private email with a suggestion that he tone it down a little.
A simple search of the internet found enough personal info to identify what
I presume is your house and (I presume) your wife's mobile number. I
pointed out that if I could find him that easily, then it was possible that
some of the individuals that he was slagging off, could do the same.

This worked for a month or so, then he returned as if nothing had happened.

Shortly after this, there was a brief move by one of the other posters to
track your son down and clean his clock. As this was a scary turn
and as I was the only person who had admitted that I knew how to find him,
I led the movement to leave him alone and preserve the insulation of the
Internet email system.

I promise to be more circumspect with responses to you in the future,
possibly using your Christian names at the bottom of your posts would elicit
a better response from your friends around the world.

I've taken the liberty of crossposting this to r.a.m. where I know this
discussion will shed light where only heat has been generated in the past.

I remain respectfully

Dave Kearton