On Jan 18, 12:39*pm, JJ Sinclair wrote:
This is my point about the problem with JJ's *scenario...You can't go
asking questions on CTAF.

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Why not? I have been known to appoint myself the local flight ops
officer when several people are trying to land. You are number 3, Sven
Vctor, I'm on downwind and Bavo Charlie is on
final................there is a tow plane in the area, where are you
Blue Tow?
The 'proper use' of the radio is not about some imagined users code,
its about establishing and maintaining seperation among airport users,
some of who can't loiter or go around.
JJ

JJ,

I guess our arguement has degenerated into a tit for tat kind of small
detail thing...arguing for the sake of arguing now.

But to address you statements above.......

There *are* standard procedures for radio use. It's not "code" and
its not "imagined". It's real, and it uses plain english. There are
articles, books, circualrs, tapes, and CD's etc that explain radio
use, put out by EAA, FAA, AIM, SSA, etc.

Please find me one example, in any of these, which recommend the use
of those questions, like "Towplane where are you?" or, "any gliders
in my area?" (remember the old TV show, "Car 54 where are you ?"

Sorry JJ, it just doesn't work that way. If you re-read my previous
long winded reply, you will see that I give many examples of how
asking an open ended question on CTAF only adds to confusion at best.

In your towplane scenario above it works like this........

If the towplane is far away and out of the picture......the tow plane
pilot says nothing.........as the tow plane approaches the airport,
and landing pattern, he makes a call on CTAF, like......"Joe's
gliderport, towplane, 5 west, landing 07....."

The glider(s) in the area, or in the pattern should react
accordingly........announcing their position(s) as they go.

I don't think it is helpful for a guy on the ground to be trying to
act as a one man control tower.......


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