Reading the Dad and Dave saga perhaps the suggestion marked with ** would
he;help the special circumstances said to be involved in this matter .
"Aerophotos" wrote in message
...
Hi Dave
This reply from you is news to me. Some of these comments you make sound
very critical of my son.
** This is the first time you have read emails or newsgroups
emanating from this address right ?
I dont like some of your email's tone and language tho.
** Tho. ?? A Seeventies era Mirage driver says "tho."
I will reply as fit below addressing the points you made.
I could say the same about some people i work with in life everyday, but
then maybe i am wiser and smarter then you.
** possibly your point in this contect is what exactly sir ?
I keep my mouth closed sometimes, i just accept life as it is. Not all
people are nice and polite as you hope. You avoid these types, if smart
and alert.
** Sadly I am one of those not so polite and nice ones of which you speak.
I am cynicle and suspicious , sir.
As his father, i can tell you all, he like you and many other
posters/writers on the newsgroups i have seen lately, have a right to
express whatever the person wishes.
** Agreed and here is one up front in your face post ,sir.
It is a debate/forum area in effect, many people world over, post
absolute goldmine of information. Other hand some other post vile and
rude emails. So be it.
** Ever been to Kalgoolie ? Its an absolute gold mine .
Its called freedom and democratic right. I was taught that in my time in
the Australian Defence Force. I served to give people freedom as did
many others.
** In my time within the ADF integrity and gentlemanly behaviour was also
taught.
Along with weed out the misfits . Less they kill the gentlemen .
Have you ever served in a military job?
** possibly 1 or 2 grin
I suspect if people dont like what they see, a VERY simple solution is
to tune out, not read or just block the incoming messages they dont
like.
** Perhaps and agree with the logic.However, when one takes on the family
of General Cosgrove its bound to get every ones attention, sir.
(My sons have taught me how to block things online 
quite handy i
think )
** heres a tip for you knuck --
http://ihug.com.au/joinus/index.html
notice the ten email addresses !!
We do and as such... we have many filters on our emails.
** Incoming or outgoing ??
Next issue.. moving on....
*Snip.
My son who is now in Air Force is a direct honest and very bright young
man.
**Is this the infamous JGG AKA Aerophotos ?
yes or no . asked only because he posted on many newsgroups then went
stum .
I will agree tho how he presents himself in writing at times may lead
some to believe otherwise.
** Speechless
He has never used any form of manners in emails i saw he send his
friends or mates before he left for the RAAF.
He just writes directly and doesn't care how it comes out. Im sure
anyone who interacted with him on this forum can agree.
** This one does not , sir.
I am only finding out now tho rather lately what was online, as i get
older i use a computer more.
** There is that like son like father writing style . You Tasmanian ??
If so you would know more than one Mirage driver from that state in the
70's
sir .
I as you have seen lately, use a more constructed and understanding ways
to converse with people as does the other son, Jeff.
*** jeff is JGG oer aerophotos or just plane Jeff ?
My wife has served in legal positions in past jobs and i will show her
your email later tonight....and see what she thinks also of this
news....
** She is a licensed practitioner of laws. will she be commenting ion
spelling etc ? Sir.
Yours truly and thanks for insight,
Jeff
****** Jeff same name as son ? Is he Jeff junior or just Jeff ? sir.
Dave Kearton wrote:
"Aerophotos" wrote in message
...
| Dave,
|
| My other son is off with the Air Force, we dont comment on his
| operational issues, due to security nowdays.. im sure you understand.
|
| Anyone in the military service if smart, doesnt comment on operational
| issues outside the workplace as such.
|
| Just to inform you..i am a ex RAAF Mirage pilot from the 70s, and with
| my other son, we both use this internet debate forum nowdays.
|
| We also forward on my other sons emails in whatever form he chooses,
| from his time off work.
|
| So what is your problem?
|
| Please enlighten us... we all would like to know what your have
against
| my son...
|
| Thanks
|
| Andrew and Jeff
|
Hello Andrew or Jeff.
This is the first time that we (or at least I) have had any real
indication
that there is more than one person using the name 'Aerophotos'
For years we have seen his posts from your email address under the name
'Jolly Green Giant' At best, some of his posts are without
tact,
at worst, they were offensive and racist (not all - but a large
proportion).
I've noticed the difference in writing style and content over the last
few
posts, compared to the last 3 years of posts that I've seen coming from
your email address. I apologise for mistakenly directing
invective
in your direction.
If you're truly unaware of the nature of the posts that exist in Usenet
that
are from your email address, I strongly suggest you use 'Google groups
search' to look through all 'Aerophotos' posts on r.a.m for the last 3
years or so.
I used the term 'special' in a facetious way and not seriously implying
that
your son is retarded. He has few friends on Usenet that I can
see,
few people post in support of his unique beliefs - which are his right
to
say, thanks to servicemen such as yourself and the others who also took
offence to _many_ of your son's political statements. He is
entitled to believe them and say what he believes - but my belief is
that
he says a lot of them to get attention or stir up trouble - within the
safety of Internet anonymity.
One of the aspects of free speech are also the consequences of saying
what's on your mind. In response to some of your son's
inflammatory
posts - and at times offensive material, are the reactions to his
appearance on usenet.
After one series of posts where your son accused a certain ethnic group
(predominant in Sydney's western suburbs) of being all rapists and
murders,
I sent him a private email with a suggestion that he tone it down a
little.
A simple search of the internet found enough personal info to identify
what
I presume is your house and (I presume) your wife's mobile number. I
pointed out that if I could find him that easily, then it was possible
that
some of the individuals that he was slagging off, could do the same.
This worked for a month or so, then he returned as if nothing had
happened.
Shortly after this, there was a brief move by one of the other posters
to
track your son down and clean his clock. As this was a scary
turn
and as I was the only person who had admitted that I knew how to find
him,
I led the movement to leave him alone and preserve the insulation of the
Internet email system.
I promise to be more circumspect with responses to you in the future,
possibly using your Christian names at the bottom of your posts would
elicit
a better response from your friends around the world.
I've taken the liberty of crossposting this to r.a.m. where I know
this
discussion will shed light where only heat has been generated in the
past.
I remain respectfully
Dave Kearton