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Old February 14th 04, 04:39 PM
Kevin Brooks
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"Jack Linthicum" wrote in message
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"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message

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On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 14:30:49 -0600, Stop SPAM
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loki wrote:
Were you even alive in those days?

Yes I was, and in fact I well remember Kerry's "Winter Soldier"

testimony.

Here is the deal. It will never be settled. It wasn't settled

back
then
and it won't be settled now. For the next several elections, the

candidates
will all have been on the wrong side of the argument according to

some
folks.

I'm not interested in whether or not it is "being settled." You're

right
- the Vietnam conflict never will "be settled". The issue, to me, is

not
"settling" Vietnam.

I can respect someone who is totally anti-war. They have their

opinion,
I have mine, and we live in a land where the First Amendment gives us
both the right to have and publically state that opinion...

But I abhore someone who tries to fence sit and take conflicting

stands
on an issue, any issue, much less one as important as the military.
Kerry, IMHO, is trying to be on both sides of the issue.

You have a problem with people who do their duty even if they
don't like it?


I believe his gist was that Kerry demonstrates a remarkable propensity

for
trying to have his cake and eat it too when it comes to things military
related. He wants to be considered a Vietnam war hero, yet he condemned

the
US soldiers, airmen, and sailors who fought there as being war

criminals; he
wants to claim his undying dedication to all things military, yet his

voting
record in regards to military programs says otherwise; he wants to

display
his medals for his own benefit, after making a big show of tossing them

in
protest; he wants to condemn Bush for allegedly not serving his entire
reserve committment, while he mysteriously never seemed to even *have*

one
himself; and he wants to pillory Bush for alleged special treatment in
getting into and out of the Guard, yet he himself secured early release

from
both Vietnam duty and an early release from his own active duty

committment.
Sounds like a pretty proficient fence sitter to me...


Let's see now, Bush left the National Guard early to go to graduate
school and Kerry left the active duty Navy with three Purple Hearts as
per regulations.


Actually, IIRC Kerry left the *Vietnam* early with three PH's (of dubious
nature--still scratching my head over a guy who gets three golden wounds
with how many days of duty missed?). Kerry left the Navy early to go be a
politician. At least that's what he says--are you gonna argue with him?


Name: John Forbes Kerry
Birth date: December 11, 1943
Education: Bachelor's degree, Yale University, 1966; law degree,
Boston College, 1976
Military Service: Navy, 1966-1970; Naval Reserves, 1972-1978


REALLY? USNR, while he was doing the whole Winter Soldier routine? How many
drills did *he* attend? Did he keep up with any IRR requirments? Inquiring
minds want to know...


Does that look like he copped out?


Yeah, in fact he does.


I presume body-counting and carpet bombing forested areas to destroy
one bicycle are the acts of a civilized people? Has anyone ever done
an assessment on the results of our bombing all those 'strategic'
targets?


What is wrong with counting casualties? What, you think they should be
ignored? If the guy on the bike is a bad guy, so be it; but now you have to
put-up-or-shut-up: give us the evidence that shows where we targeted one guy
with a bike by "carpet bombing forested areas" (by which I presume you mean
Arclight). Here is your chance Jack! Make the most of it--and BTW, no Winter
Soldier "testimony" (giggle-snort) allowed...



Now it's time for you to answer a question I didn't ask or make some
gratuitous comment about the 'cheapness' of Kerry's Purple Hearts.


Not gratuitous--the comment about the PH's is valid; can you name any other
troops who got three of those without missing any duty days?

Brooks