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Old February 28th 11, 11:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Alexander Georgas
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On Feb 28, 4:53*pm, Walt Connelly Walt.Connelly.
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bildan;763822 Wrote:



On Feb 27, 7:13*pm, Darryl Ramm wrote:
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Because its not a ASEL aircraft. What do you would think would happen
if you set loose a typical power pilot in a self launch motorglider?-


What would happen if you set him loose in a sea plane, a twin or a
jet? *It's at least arguable the skill gap between single engine land
and any of those is comparable to that between a pure glider and a
self-launcher yet they each require a specific rating.


Some motorgliders easily approach the complexity and work load of
flying a light twin.


I think Walt has a good question.


Bill Daniels


I think my point was missed. *I am not opposed to the glider pilot
having an engine, I was curious as to how one got around the ASEL
situation. *In my mind if you put an engine on and glider it becomes an
ASEL. * Take the pure motor glider with an engine hanging on the nose.
Could an ASEL pilot check out in one and fly it legally? *Perhaps a
light sport pilot could do the same? *Sure these things are gonna float
like no conventional ASEL would but I'm just asking a question. I need
to check the regs on this for myself when I get the chance but I realize
this forum contains a plethora of information.

I have a commercial rating for both airplanes and gliders so I think I
see both sides of the equation. *In my mind, the glider pilot's skill is
greater than an equivalent time ASEL type. *I learned things I never
knew and developed greater skills in flying than I had when I
transitioned from power to gliders., *But when an ASEL type want to fly
a multi, he is required to get a multi engine rating and it appears on
his license. *Same with seaplane and other different types of ratings.
I believe the endorsement is all that is required of a glider pilot for
a motor glider, am I right?

For the record I have seen a high time, highly experienced power and
glider pilot make a major blunder with his motor out. *Scared the
crappola out of me and I was standing on the ground at the time. *The
bottom line is that proper training and check outs are everything.

Walt

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Walt Connelly


Both types of pilots are highly skilled and well trained for their
particular machines. It just is that sticking an engine into a modern
sailplane makes it as much of an ASEL as turning of the engine on a
152 makes it a soaring machine.

The Cessna will glide, but in a very different manner from a glider.
Conversely, an SLMG with its long wings, slippery surface and
specialized engine designed exclusively for full power operation and a
very narrow flight envelope (the one I fly will go from stall to stall
+12 knots before it overrevs) is far from the typical ASEL experience.