On Apr 27, 7:19*am, airshowbob wrote:
Interesting that FAA registration shows fixed wing, recip engine and
racing (only). *The airworthiness certificate says Glider, exhibition
& racing. *The operating limitations specifically address the turbine
engine. *My guess is whoever typed it in just couldn't fathom the idea
of turbine engine and glider on the same form. *I'd say the FAA is
confused...imagine...Thanks for pointing it out, Andy. *I'll see about
getting the FAA records corrected.

As for logging PIC time, because my BonusJet has been approved for
training for hire under a Letter Of Deviation Authority or LODA
(91.319h, for those who like to look up interesting regs), I agreed to
an operating limitation requiring an LOA to be PIC. *So, technically,
you can't be PIC of this particular aircraft without the specific
rating. *Not so with my Salto or with my twin jet Silent (also didn't
require a multi-engine rating).

BTW, the jet Silent was de-engined and sold as a non-powered glider
last year.

BC

On Apr 26, 6:20*pm, Andy wrote:



On Apr 26, 4:28*pm, "Dr. John" wrote:

* *I guess most of us glider pilots have a *flying bug/genetic defect
that propels us to want to fly above the earth. *Most of us also have
had the desire to fly jet fighters at one point or another. *I guess
that is one reason I love sailplanes, *it feels kind of like a jet
fighter. * I'm sure Jonkers will have a perfect jet sustainer option
someday for those that want a sustainer. I think the 304-Shark is an
excellent jet sustainer if it is only a sustainer you are looking for
and you want it right now. *I sat in the jet 304 at the convention
last year and it was really really nice. I even got a tingle in my
leg! *I could taste the future possibility!
* * Many of us were not worthy enough for the military jet program due
to bad eyes or being too tall or both. Yes, I am tall and half blind
but I can fly quite well. *Bob Carlton has given us military castoffs
a small window of opportunity to fly our own jet and experience the
dream. *Bob Carltons turbine engine upgrade makes your sailplane dual
purpose, a self launch sailplane, but it also becomes a jet airplane
on those very blue, windless days where you just want to go fly
somewhere and have fun. * *From what I have heard, EASA has made
certification of jet sustainers much easier and cheaper than a self
launch jet sailplane. *Manufactures following EASA regs have little
incentive to build a jet self launch at this time, or so I have
heard. *That is where Bob Carltons turbine upgrade comes in!!! * * All
I have to do now is save the $3000 to get my turbine sailplane
endorsement from Bob Carltons certification program. Then, I would win
the lottery to by my own Bonus jet sailplane or a JS-1/Duo Discus
upgraded . *In the mean time, I should travel to New Mexico and get
checked out in Bobs Bonus Jet and get my jet sailplane endorsement and
check off one more item on my BUCKET LIST!
John Ackerson

John,

I logged my time in the Bonus Jet as glider pilot in command as I am
"grandfathered" to act as pilot in command of motor gliders. Since you
raised the issue of special training I checked how the Bonus Jet is
registered. There were two surprises:

1. The aircraft is registered as Type - Fixed Wing Single-Engine (Not
glider)
2. Type Engine is specified as Reciprocating.

Looks like I need to change my log entry since I'm also qualified to
fly fixed wing aircraft with one or more reciprocating engines.

Also noted the experimental category is racing, with no mention of
exhibition or development which also seems strange.

Anyone else confused??

Andy- Hide quoted text -

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Not trying to be difficult, but I'd like to understand this better as
it may have a direct influence on whether turbo jet self launchers
will be viable in USA.

First of all, surely the LODA related to training for hire is required
because the aircraft is Experimental. Wouldn't it be required even if
there was no power plant?

Second if the aircraft is really registered as a glider there is no
requirement under Part 61 for a type rating or any special training,
other than an endorsement to fly self lunch if not grandfathered. Why
does any LOA you have negotiated with FAA, as part of your training
deviation, impact other pilots who are not parties to that training
agreement? Is the LOA restriction on PIC a condition of the aircraft
airworthiness certification rather than a condition of training for
hire?

What special training is required and what rating or endorsement is
issued when that training is completed?

Still dreaming of that jet powered JS-1.

thanks

Andy