On Dec 20, 7:00*am, Cliff Hilty
wrote:
I agree, there is a need for both and the sports class should be for "new"
pilots to racing or/and very low performance handicapped gliders. While
club class should be flown in Club class gliders Which is by far the
largest segment of gliders out there just very few of them fly in contests
because of getting beat badly in FAI classes with no handicap or getting
beat in soports by a 1.54 handicapped 1-26 flying a 2.5 hour TAT and only
going 70 miles while club class has to go twice as far. Trying to combine
such diverse handicaps is just to dependant on weather.

And to answer your question about Moriarty I may not considering the SSA's
last minute decision to change the Insurance requirements without
notification for SSA sanctioned contests-----but that should be another
thread entirely!

CH Ventus B

At 13:12 20 December 2011, kirk.stant wrote:



This whole Sports Class vs Club Class argument is absurd.

There are FUNDAMENTAL differences between the intent of the two
classes:

Sports is meant to be a "beginners" class. *Thus the shorter, simpler
(?) tasking, and letting any glider that shows up compete. *OK in
theory, except when you end up with a Blanik racing a Nimbus 4DM...but
if both pilots are beginners to racing, then it kinda works.

Club class is meant to be a serious racing class for pilots who don't
have the latest FAI gliders, but still wand serious competition with
challenging tasks.

There is a need for both; the Arizona Soaring Association addresses
this with 3 level of tasks when necessary, so that the task difficulty
better matches the glider performance and pilot skill of the
competitors.

I personally will not compete in a Sports Class contest unless it is
held in my back yard. *I will travel to a Club/Modern contest
(planning on attending Moriarty again this June - CH are you in?). *I
will also go to 15M regionals or even the Nationals if possible, even
if my LS6 is not quite as competitive as the latest V2s and 29s,
because I enjoy a challenging race.

My suggestion? Combine Club/Modern with Std/15 regionals, with
slightly shorter tasks for the Club/Modern. *Bigger field, bigger
contests, more fun. *Ditto Sports/Club; same venue and contest
management, different tasks/scoresheets.

Kirk
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Dick Johnson often said that Sports Class is the "entry & exit class",
so don't forget about us old duffers that still like to race, but no
longer get excited about flying in the rat-pack classes. Where can I
find a list of Club Class ships?
JJ