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Old March 3rd 04, 04:34 PM
Keith Willshaw
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"Michael Petukhov" wrote in message
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(2) Should one of the Contracting Powers become engaged in

hostilities
with a European Power in consequence of action by that Power which
threatened the independence or neutrality of another European

State in
such a way as to constitute a clear menace to the security of that
Contracting Party, the provisions of Article 1 will apply, without
prejudice, however, to the rights of the other European State
concerned.

WOW! "another European State" now.
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Irony Mode On
Gee what a surprise when the original treaty referred to
'a European State' it really meant 'a European State'

Exactly. according to this SECRET PROTOCOL Britain and Poland agreed
to start aggresive war against "a European State" using ANY action
of that "a European State".


Try again Michael , the agreement states clearly that this only applies
if the action of that European states threatens the security of either
Britain or Poland.


Too wide range of cases to be true defensive pact.


In your opinion

Who will decide what is threat and what is not?
Imagine for a moment if Poland invaded Lithuania
in 1939 and USSR moved forces to protect
it against Poland would it "threatens the security of
either Britain or Poland"?


Possibly but then that would not have happened
as a result of another European Nation but of
Poland which would give Britain an out.


Very probable scenario
in 1939 by the way. Poles tried actually ones and were
stoped by strong Stalin reaction only. I think this is
why Mr. Halifax signed that mutual assistence pact
with (Keith note) THE SECRET PROTOCOL. His hopes for
big war in eastern europe of all against USSR were quite
real.


That is possibly the silliest statement ever posted in this
newsgroup. The one thing that characterised Chamberlain's
government was the view that virtually anything was preferable
to fighting a war.

In august 1939 there were two states who were practicing
aggresive attacks against its neibours namely Germany and
Poland, and both were united in pathological hate of USSR.


Oh puleeze, it wasnt Poland that invaded Lituania, Latvia, Estonia
and Finland.

Stalin signed a defensive pact with Hitler.


That allowed him to 'defensively' invade and annexe the
Baltic States , Finland and Poland

Mr. Halifax signed aggresive pact with Poland.


That caused Britain to declare war on Germany after
Germany invaded Poland

Both had secret protocols. Feel the difference.


Good advice, why dont you take it.

Keith