On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 11:11:29 PM UTC-5, Ramy wrote:
Agh, I give up. Every attempt to try to say something about the need for better safety culture will encounter resistant from those who claim there is nothing wrong with the system and the only problem is the pilots. I guess this is their way of convincing themselves they safe since they will never do such mistakes themselves.
Good luck.

Ramy ( who does NOT need anyone to look after him)

Then what are you asking for? There is a LOT of safety information and training available. Many old, experienced pilots still around. Good instructors.

What culture would you impose? How would you enforce it?

The only group in soaring that really enforces a safety culture is, oddly enough, the racing community - parachutes, ELTs, radios, FLARM, skill requirements, training camps, etc. - If the rest of the soaring community had the same requirements, it might improve safety.

Or not.

Bottom line. Our gliders are incredibly safe. Pilots are not. Our initial and recurrent training system is minimal, and requires individual commitment to learn and practice safe soaring.

If you know how to fix that - please let us know! It gets old having to lie about how safe our sport really is!

Meanwhile, I'm not waiting for someone else to make me safer. I'll do that myself, thankyou.

Kirk
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