On Friday, December 14, 2012 11:52:39 PM UTC-8, kirk.stant wrote:
On Thursday, December 13, 2012 7:40:52 PM UTC+1, wrote:



We are proposing starting a new class, not excluding them (V1 and LS6)from an existing contest. So here is the question: Should V1's and LS6 stay in Sports Class under US Rules or be allowed in the new FAI US Club Class? I'd like to hear comments.



Sean Franke (HA)



Sean, I fly an LS6 and I will not fly sports for the same reason you wont fly sports: No speed tasks and ridiculous tasking if the Nimbus and 2-33 show up. Yuck.



I flew the 2011 Moriarty Super Regional, and liked it - and I've been flying handicapped in the ASA series for a long time, mainly AT and AATs.



I'm happy sticking to FAI 15M, even if (at least out West) i'm at a disadvantage - mainly because its still really me and not my glider that makes me slower than a -29 or V2 (most of the time...).



But I would like to have more race options, and by limiting the US Club to not including later 20s, LS6s, or V1s, you are keeping out a bunch of potential racers.



Seems to me, at the regional level, get the biggest crowd you can but task for the FAI class performance. At the national level, fine, limit to FAI if you want - anyone serious enough to go to a Nationals can find a club class glider to take. My experience at Moriarty was that being at the high end of the performance handicap range actually hurts - I would have done better, I think, if I had competed in the Modern class, trying to chase down the faster gliders, instead of trying to run away from the slower (!) ones....



Kirk

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Kirk, great comments. Interesting thought about opening up handicap range at Regional contests to encourage participation.

Keep in mind for the first time ASW20 B and C's are excluded from current WGC. Maybe because the ASW20 is expected to be a formidable glider given soaring conditions in Argentina. Some say (others don't) that B and C's are better performing than ASW20 A. This is likely the reason for current exclusion because of WGC locaton.

For US Club Class purposes ALL 15 meter ASW20's (A,B and C) should be included.

You brought this thread back home. It's about a CHOICE.

For some reason the RC is against an FAI CHOICE. We have a significant voice from those who ACTUALLY will fly Club Class saying WE WANT US FAI CLUB CLASS. Why won't the RC support us, the customer? So far only the RC and a few who have no intention of flying Club Class are opposed.

Kirk, I hope to see more posts from pilots like you in support.

Sean Franke (HA)

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