"David Hartung" wrote in
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"Republican Double Standard" wrote in
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"David Hartung" wrote in
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My experience is 11 years in the USAF, but it seems to me that one
who has not served in any branch of the military, is in no position
to tell a Guardsman how the Guard works.
What do I win for accurately predicting your pathetic weasle?
Are you gay? Are you a virologist? You've pontificated quite a bit on
these two subjects you know. Are you someone who is not gay that
tells gays how they feel and act? Are you someone who has not studied
virology (BTW, I am a microbiologist which includes virology) but
feels like he's in a position to tell people who have studied
virology how viriuses work? And let's not forget your grand theory of
HIV epidemiology. Are you an epidemiologist? Do you live in Florida?
Have you voted there? You certainly have had a lot to say about how
voting works in Florida over the past few years.
You don't have to serve in the guard to be able to read a transfer
request denial from personel headquarters. Or are there hidden
messages in it that you only learn how to decifer after you've
served?
It is obvious that you will reject anything which counters your
preconceived opinion, but the simple fact is, one who is in the Guard
How could you possibly know? You have not offered anything that counters
my notions - preconceived or otherwise. All I know is that every actual
document I've seen clearly shows he asked for a transfer, it was denied,
but he still didn't show up at Ellington for a year. He did show up one
day at Dannelly to have his teeth examined. Other than that, there are
only generalizations about whether he was paid (which proves nothing
other than he was paid) and his discharge (which proves nothing because
the two Washington guardsmen who failed their HRP were both honorably
discharged).
is much more qualified to speak to the operation of the Guard than one
who has not.
This is ludicrous. It's like saying a school child is more qualified to
tell you how a school district functions than a superintendant who
didn't attend that particular school district.
I never served. I do not pretend to know everything about
how the Guard works, except that it was occasionally necessary for My
Dad to miss drills, this was no problem, he would make them up later.
The concept of equivalent training is not one which I am familiar
with, but it does stand to reason that there would be provisions for
Guardsmen to do such, after all, they all had civilian jobs.
My dad was in the Army. I suspect that if he had asked for a transfer
from Fort Bragg to another base and had had that request denied but
still failed to show up at Fort Bragg for 12 months, he would have been
court martialled. But then, his daddy wasn't a congressman.
One more point, there has been at least one individual who served with
George Bush in the Texas Guard, and according to this individual, Bush
did nothing wrong. My suggestion to you fools who keep beating this
dead horse would be to get a life.
This one individual you mention served with Bush in Texas from 70-71.
Why would you think his statements have any bearing on Bush's service
from 72-73?
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"Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period of
report. A civilian occupation made it necessary for him to move to
Montgomery, Alabama. He cleared this base on 15 May 1972 and has been
performing equivalent training in a non-flying status with the 187 TAC
recon Gp, Dannelly ANG Base, Alabama."
[signed]
"William D. Harris, Jr. Lt Col. Pilot, Flt Intcp"
"Jerry D. Killian, Lt. Col. Squadron Commander"
Both signatures dated 2 May 1973 [50 weeks after the date Bush "cleared
this base."]
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"Application for Reserve Assignment, Bush, George W, 1sr Lt
"TAG Texas
"1. Application for Reserve Assignment for First Lieutenant Bush is
returned.
"2. A review of his Master Personel Record shows he has a Military
Service Obligation until 26 May 1974. Under provisions of paragraph 30-6
n (4), AFM 35-3, an obligated Reservist can be assigned to a specific
Ready Reserve position only. Therefore, he is ineligible for assignment
to an Air Reserve Squadron."
signed by The Director of Personnel Resources on 24 May 1972.
9 days *after* Bush "cleared" his prior posting. Bush failed to return
to his post in Texas for another 47 weeks after that. That is desertion
of duty. You cannot spin it any other way. You can pull strings (if your
Poppy) but you cannot change the fact that Bush's transfer request was
denied and he still failed to return to his post for nearly a year.
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"We gave Hussein a chance to allow inspectors in, and he wouldn't let
them in."
- George WMD. Bush, lying on July 14, 2003.