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Old March 28th 04, 09:02 PM
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On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 07:26:54 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
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Seems to prove all the other articles that can easily be found by
searching google that give regs, dates and such aren't a bunch of
bull. The labs were in place by 1971 and testing increased
dramatically in 1972.

The early tests were easily passed by drinkers. Only non-drinkers ever
failed.


Personal experience?G


The tests were taken by a large population. In my 30 years of being subject
to drug testing I have never been tested.


Not even for a job application?

It is strange nothinig is said about testing for drunks at the lab
site. Maybe it was an easier test and done locally.


In 1972 the USAF provided kegs for the troops. Even in the late 80s there
was usually a keg at the end of a FOD walk on Edwards.


USAF never provided a keg at any of the nine or so bases I was at from
63 to 82. I think it was after a couple B-52s made an around the world
flight at K.I. they brought a frig into maintenance debriefing with
beer for the returning crews. Sure as heck the enlisted debriefers
weren't allowed to sit there drinking beer with them. An EWO might
stop by with a couple cases of beer for the ECM shop after an ORI, but
it was pretty strict it was for off duty only. Even the major drinkers
like SSgt and above would wait at least 10 seconds after shift change.
Squadron or shop parties everyone chip in for a keg maybe. Really not
sure if they would buy a keg out of the coffee and donut shop money or
not. I remember AAFES started bitching about all the little squadron
coffee shop operations going on so they started a satellite operation
in the maintenance building..

Really a surprise they were still providing kegs in the late 80s.
Thought they had started the crackdown on drinking years before that.
I thought by that time membership in the clubs was falling and they
started merging the on base clubs and turning them into more of a
family atmosphere.

The THC test was readily masked by alcohol. These days pot shows up for 30
days in the US DOT test requirement, while cocaine only shows for three
days. If you are a locomotive operator or a pilot and want to get high
these day US DOT has created an incintive to use the hard stuff.


Doesn't cocaine show up in hair samples much longer than that? Maybe
have no notice haircuts?G