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Old March 30th 04, 05:23 PM
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The stick moves to operate the cable actuated system control

system.

Do you know the airplane at all, monkey sock?

I'm actually talking about CAS - the only FCS configuration you

would
EVER fight the Hornet in - not DEL or MECH modes.

I take it you never flew the airplane.

you know what- I' don't need to justify what I've done to some wannabe
clown- if you've flown it you would know that all the DEL modes
(analog, digital, etc)and MECH are backup modes only for when the CAS
system fails.

Or when CAS is switched out. Which is the way an F-18 can do a cobra

like a
Flanker.

Besides, I'm on this board for entertainment purposes
only - the one I read for real professional discussion, you can't get
on unless you can prove you're a military pilot. I noticed you're not
on it Tarver.

I did however design the HARV simulator at NASA and I am well aware of

how
an F/A-18 works. (first accurate F/A-18 simulator)


OK, now I see where you are coming from - academically. It's taken
awhile for me to see your viewpoint. Operationally, one never uses any
mode except for CAS - there's no need to unless it craps out or you
get battle damage resulting in it. Referring to the checklist, DEL ON,
MECH ON, FCS CAUT, AIL OFF, FC AIR DAT, FCS HOT, FLAPS OFF, FLAP
SCHED, R LIM OFF, RUD OFF are all considered EMERGENCY situations and
are dealt with as such. I guess the test pilot dudes might play around
with that sort of stuff, but never the line guys.


The line guys need to know the emergency procedure of breaking the stick out
in order to be safe. The fact that you are still disputing that seems odd
to me.

NO. In my air force we have been flying the Hornet for over 20 years.
I can't speak for the USN guys, but our jet does not even have a
switch to turn off CAS - except for FCE 1, 2, 3, 4, CBs. When you talk
about the switch on the "left" there is FCS reset or GAIN ORIDE, which
just controls LEF and TEF. I also took a look in more detail at the
PCL and there is NO emergency in which the system would be disable by
the pilot - it automatically reverts. I'm also not sure about the USN
jet but ours is pretty much alpha unlimited in normal operation. If
you're talking about the g limiter/paddle switch I understand- but i
think you are confusing test bed features with production aircraft.
I'll tell you what, we have a Marine exchange O on our sqn, I will
talk to him tomorrow about their EPs.