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Old October 14th 13, 02:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Justin Craig[_3_]
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Bill,

You have still not confirmed if you are in fact the highly regarded Bill
Daniels?

I hope you are not, because each time you post, you loose any credibility
by being rude and obnoxious. Why is it necessary to make statements such as
"Yes, I read your ramble"?

If you are the "real Bill Daniels" please let us know.

If you are not, I am sure the "real Bill Daniels" will be royally ****ed
off that you have been letting the wider population of the gliding
community assume that you are whilst blighting his good name!

Justin Craig

At 13:43 14 October 2013, Bill D wrote:
On Monday, October 14, 2013 3:43:07 AM UTC-6, Paul Ruskin wrote:
On Monday, October 14, 2013 3:03:44 AM UTC+1, Bill D wrote:

I don't get accident statistics from RAS comments.






Which would be an admirable position Bill, except that I took the

trouble
to go and find the accident reports from the BFU and BGA and posted a

list
of winch accidents in my comment, including sources and accident report
numbers.



The data says that in the period 2006-12 a German pilot had much the

same
chance as a UK civilian pilot of being killed or injured in a winch
accident.



Perhaps you'd let us know whether you now accept that conclusion,

rather
than claiming that UK winch launches are 10 times more dangerous?





Paul


Yes, I read your ramble. The operable statistic is number of accidents

per
number of launches - very simple and not included in your post.

For 2011 (The numbers just look worse for the UK the further back one
goes.)
The Germans suffered one accident every 180,000 launches
The UK suffered one every 16,000 launches.

That's better than 10:1 and the number can't be twisted to show parity.