Paul did allow for the greater number of glider pilots and winch
launches in Germany and his figures are for fatal and serious
injury accidents only. As I have pointed out to you before, the
BGA accident statistics include all minor accidents and incidents
that are even vaguely related to winch launching and which do
not cause death or serious injury. There are probably 10 such
incidents for every serious accident which probably explains the
difference. There are lies, damn lies, and your interpretation of
accident!

Derek Copeland


At 13:43 14 October 2013, Bill D wrote:
On Monday, October 14, 2013 3:43:07 AM UTC-6, Paul Ruskin
wrote:
On Monday, October 14, 2013 3:03:44 AM UTC+1, Bill D
wrote:

I don't get accident statistics from RAS comments.


Which would be an admirable position Bill, except that I took
the trouble
to go and find the accident reports from the BFU and BGA and
posted a list
of winch accidents in my comment, including sources and
accident report
numbers.



The data says that in the period 2006-12 a German pilot had
much the same
chance as a UK civilian pilot of being killed or injured in a
winch
accident.



Perhaps you'd let us know whether you now accept that
conclusion, rather
than claiming that UK winch launches are 10 times more
dangerous?





Paul

Yes, I read your ramble. The operable statistic is number of
accidents per
number of launches - very simple and not included in your
post.

For 2011 (The numbers just look worse for the UK the further
back one
goes.)
The Germans suffered one accident every 180,000 launches
The UK suffered one every 16,000 launches.

That's better than 10:1 and the number can't be twisted to
show parity.