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Old November 11th 13, 01:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
darrylr
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Default FLARM, ADS-B, Transponder made easy??

On Sunday, November 10, 2013 4:42:15 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Sunday, November 10, 2013 9:48:53 AM UTC-6, wrote:

Like to fly at both TSA (Dallas - Fort Worth) and Moriarty (ABQ). MY heirs worry more about me hitting an airliner than another glider. Have high end avionics in the Piper (Garmin 750 with ADS-B in and out), but Piper display does not seem like it would help much in a situation like near cloud base with an unlimited height start gate.








I have noticed with ADS-B that as traffic gets close the screen seems to distract me from looking outside.




Thinking of putting in an Oudie. Can I use the Oudie as the FLARM display? Does ADS-B data ride on transponder RF? Is there any plan to consolidate all these devices into ADS-B? It would seem to me that I fairly low power transmission of GPS position and altitude could solve all the collision problems?




Bill Snead

6W



Did not seem to be any reasonable place to put the portable FLARM in the Libelle.








Seems crazy that we are dealing with three different (co dependent) devices to solve the same low probably problem. Four systems actually if you count looking outside.








Getting the Libelle ready for next season. Help me.








Bill Snead




6W


There are many may threads wasted on this stuff on DUC.

ADS-B data-out rides on Transponder 1090ES (or in the USA on UAT), but getting ADS-B data-out properly installed in any glider is a pain in the ass thanks to the FAA. And it would provide you with limited benefit today, ATC and the airliners can see you fine with a transponder. Just install a Mode-S transponder like Dave says, the Trig TT-22 being my favorite, turn it on don't look at it. ATC will see you, and the airliners with TCAS-II will avoid running into you, that TCAS-II last saftey net is very important. TCAS-II's collision avoidance uses transponder interrogation, you do not need ADS-B data-out for it to work.

None of this is as hard as it is sometimes made out. To avoid airliners and fast jets (and some GA traffic) install a transponder, everything else install a PowerFLARM. Wanting "one box to do all" is actually a just horrible idea, if Flarm had to build a RTCA compliant/FAA approved device, it would never have gotten any product to market. Keeping electronic gizmos we need in gliders as as separate as possible from regulatory quagmires is a great plan.

Darryl