On Saturday, January 4, 2014 4:22:06 AM UTC-5, Peter F wrote:
Same is pretty much true in all the "smaller" classes



15m class there's not really anything "better" than the V2a or ASW27, both

of which are pretty ancient designs



18m class, the new kid on the block is the JS1, the V2cx & ASG29 are still

pretty close - JS1 has "Open class" option



The newest gliders seem to be appearing in open class. But Schempp &

Schleicher has now produced their offerings.



2-seat XC class seems stable with the Duo, Arcus & soon ASG32



Not sure I'd want to be starting a career in glider design right now.



The only opening I can see is for a competitor for the K21

Relatively low cost, strong, reasonable performance, fly the whole training

curriculum including spinning.

A bit like the fixed wheel DG1000



PF





At 20:16 03 January 2014, wrote:

On Friday, January 3, 2014 2:24:27 PM UTC-5, Paul T wrote:

The Discus 2 is now well over 15 years old - why is there nothing

better

in Standard Class? Has glider design reached a plateau in terms of

performance in the Standard Class?



Nobody is buying new Std class gliders, in part because it is a quietly

shrinking class.

There is no market incentive for manufacturers to develop a new glider,

especially when they can put their effort into the popular 18 meter

gliders

that the wealthy glider buying class seems to want while generating

susstantially more revenue per sale.

For racers, this is actaully a good thing because there are plenty of

D2's,28's LS-8's, etc that can be had reasonably and allow a pilot to be

competitive.

One view

UH

"
"The only opening I can see is for a competitor for the K21

Relatively low cost, strong, reasonable performance, fly the whole training

curriculum including spinning.

A bit like the fixed wheel DG1000
PF
And SZD 54-2 Perkoz is exactly what you desire
http://www.windpath.ca/index.php?opt...=35&It emid=8
Jerzy