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Old March 24th 14, 05:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Sean Fidler
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Default Help needed re Mifflin wind turbines

Dan, sometimes you have to go with the argument that can win the war.

A) Gliders not being able to fly on their ridges? Public (and especially govt bureaucrats) could care less.

B) Majestic Raptors (many endangered) along with all birds getting brutally killed en masse by Green Energy and clear liberal double standards? No we have something to fight with....

At minimum it drives the liberals crazy. And that ain't half bad...

;-)

On Monday, March 24, 2014 11:57:22 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
Uhhhh... Whatever-the-hell-your-name-is: I believe the argument against

this wind farm is about gliders and ridge soaring.





"gotovkotzepkoi" wrote in

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So comical is the "mind" of the mindless, liberal drone.


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Hmmm....accused of being a "liberal drone"!! Now that hurts - NOT.


Anyway, the figures about bird deaths from wind turbines appear to be


highly inflated. Here is one of many sources:




http://tinyurl.com/2v72l2l




An excerpt from that link:




"Man-made structure/technology




Associated bird deaths per year (U.S.)




Feral and domestic cats - Hundreds of millions [source: AWEA]




Power lines-130 million -- 174 million [source: AWEA]




Windows (residential and commercial)-100 million -- 1 billion [source:


TreeHugger]




Pesticides-70 million [source: AWEA]




Automobiles-60 million -- 80 million [source: AWEA]




Lighted communication towers-40 million -- 50 million [source: AWEA]




Wind turbines-10,000 -- 40,000 [source: ABC]




Collisions with wind turbines account for about one-tenth of a percent


of all "unnatural" bird deaths in the United States each year. And of


all bird deaths, 30 percent are due to natural causes, like baby birds


falling from nests [source: AWEA]. So why the widespread misconception


that labels wind turbines "bird-o-matics"? I*t all starts with


California, raptors and the thousands of old turbines that make up the


Altamont Pass wind farm.




In this article, we'll find out where the statistics went wrong, how


thousands of birds do end up flying into wind turbines each year and


what's being done to reduce the number of bird-turbine collisions."




Now I can get just as teary eyed as the next guy when one of our avian


soaring buddies gets whacked by a blade. But to say that these things


are going to slice and dice raptors into oblivion is just not true.




The bottom line is that some people do not want these wind farms on the


ridges. The reality is that most people do not want them for aesthetic


reasons-they look like crap. I agree with that. But that's a hard


argument to make. Glider pilots have an even weaker argument in the


overall battle against turbines. There simply aren't enough ridge flying


glider pilots to make a difference. Your average person cannot give a


rat's a*s that you are inconvenienced in the practice of your elite,


rich mans sport.




I am in the "they look like crap" category. I'll never forget how


shocked I was a few years back when I drove across West Texas for the


first time in 30 years. There were turbines all over the place that


severely detracted from the magic of that sparsely populated landscape.


Then, the demise of Boone Pickens big dream stopped him from sticking


them on every nub of terrain in the rest of West Texas.




So, good luck defeating the wind farm initiative but I don't think the


trumped up bird argument carries enough weight to be taken seriously.










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