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Old March 29th 14, 04:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Help needed re Mifflin wind turbines

On Saturday, March 29, 2014 11:14:05 AM UTC-4, Sean Fidler wrote:
Jim,



WIth due respect, where did you get these data on the oil industry killing more birds than green energy wind turbines? Please share this data with us so we can study it.



I dont understand this kind of argument to be honest. Johny does it too? Seriously? This somehow makes the fact that thousands and thousands of birds are being brutally killed every day by wind turbines, OK?



Regardless, I can't imagine that hundreds of thousands of wind turbines (and growing) spinning almost continuously exactly at the altitude 99% of birds fly kills LESS birds than the oil industry. Are you talking about the oil spills? But I look forward to seeing these data, albeit completely meaningless in the context of the discussion here about green energy wind turbines, liberal hypocritism and their clear willingness to kill numerous birds when their political goals are counter to them.



Sean


Sean,
let me ask where you got your info and wisdom about the fact that wind turbines are killing birds? The internet? Remember - you can't believe anything you read on the internet! That is exactly how WW-I got started....

Please share this data with us so we can study it.

Who is WE? You have a group of expert helping you or are you talking about yourself in first person plural now?

Wind turbines must be built on ridge lines nowadays since the ones built in the flat-lands are becoming less and less effective. The bird-carcasses are piling up around them so high by now that the blade tips are touching the top of these piles thus slowing them down. Building them on ridge lines allows the greedy and bird hating operators to bulldoze the dead birds into the valleys to keep their evil machines going.

Again Sean, where did you gain your in-depth knowledge about the ill-effects of wind energy? You work in the industry, have visited countless wind parks, climbed turbines, inspected blades by rappelling down on them, etc.? I asked you that question once before a while back and only got a 'you are the man' as a reply - very deep, indeed. I bet you have never even been near a turbine or wind park, have you? Should I be wrong here, my sincere apologies but please cite the name of the park.
You will notice that I do not post any link(s) in support of wind energy. No matter which link one picks, it is always sponsored by someone either pro or con wind/renewable energies. But then again, I don't need to - I work in the industry and have done/am doing all the things mentioned above except the rappelling thing (need special training for that but I am very close to someone who does just that for a living) and I know that the arguments you are calling facts are nothing but mindless re-posts of the most extreme arguments one can find on the internet rather than based on first hand knowledge and expertise.
Let me convey a bit of wisdom my dad gave me on my way in the form of a little prayer: 'Dear God, please help me to keep my mouth shut for at least as long as it takes to know what it is that I am talking about' It might help you as well.

Uli

P.S.: let me know if you have trouble picking out the paragraph(s) written in total sarcasm ....