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Lets forget about most cases and stay specific of this attack, Mort. Do

you

still think nothing could have been done (as you've been told), no

measures

could have been taken to thwart this style of attack?

Sure.

We could have arrested all the terrorists in the U.S. and thwarted the
attack on 9/11 (in which case they'd have activated sleeper cells or
sent
others in through Canada or Mexico and 9/11 would have happened on 10/12
instead)


Pshycic?

We could have grounded all flights that day (so we'd remember 9/12 or
9/13
instead)

Anything you can think of would *delay* the attacks on 9/11... but how

would

you *stop* them?


1) Pat attention to the warnings of AC Highjackings AND Highjacked AC as
weapons into American Targets.

What warnings? Yes, there were AQ members 'learning' to fly but not to
land or take off. We had no specific targets or dates, so any action to
have been taken would have been of a very general nature.

What warnings? I can see you are either a moron or a shill. In either case
get yourself together. How many times will you trumpet that retarded
statement of 'we had no specific targets or dates..." as an excuse for NO
ACTION being taken?

An example for your "what warnings?" statement. One of many if you cared to
be informed. NOTE: it ain't on dat dare TeeeVeee

David Schippers, noted conservative Chicago lawyer and the House Judiciary
Committee's chief investigator in the Clinton impeachment trial, claims two
days after 9/11 that he had tried to warn federal authorities about plans to
strike buildings in lower Manhattan. Schippers says, "I was trying to get
people to listen to me because I had heard that the terrorists had set up a
three-pronged attack:" an American airplane, the bombing of a federal
building in the heartland and a massive attack in lower Manhattan. He tries
contacting Attorney General John Ashcroft, the White House, and even the
House managers with whom he had worked, but nobody returns his phone calls.
"People thought I was crazy. What I was doing was I was calling everybody I
knew telling them that this has happened," he says. "I'm telling you the
more I see of the stuff that's coming out, if the FBI had even been awake
they would have seen it." He also claims to know of ignored warnings about
the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, and evidence that Middle Easterners were
connected with that attack. [Indianapolis Star, 5/18/02] Other mainstream
sources have apparently shied away from Schippers' story, but he has added
details in an interview on the partisan Alex Jones Show. He claims that it
is FBI agents in Chicago and Minnesota who first contact him and tell him
that a terrorist attack is going to occur in lower Manhattan. A group of
these agents now want to testify about what they know, but want legal
protection from government retribution. [Alex Jones Show 10/10/01]




2) Brief FAA Officials of these non-actionable (cough) warnings and tell
them to not to scratch their heads at:

a) the first sign of trouble
b) when it is know to be highjacked

only to talk amongst themselves. Instead, clarify that they are to
expedite
FAA Procedures of intercept then contact The President. If the errant,
Highjacked AC would not follow intercept orders a decision could be made
to
take more drastic measures. It isn't that difficult.


Most didn't, since the first sign of trouble was at the time of the
hijackings.

Most didn't? Most didn't what, moron? If you're going to try and convince
yourself that you are in reality you will need to put up a better argument.



Excuse me, but until 9/11, the paradyme for hijacking was not to
interfere and obey what the hijackers were telling you to do. Until
9/11, hijacking was used as a method of simply flying somewhere that was
not on the the flight plan. Usually, the flight crew and passengers
were released or ended up unharmed. 9/11 changed that.

Can you cite one FAA procedure that specifically states this? No, you can't
because there is no such document. There are however quite a few procedures
that call for intercepts on errant, nordo, unidentified AC doing what they
will and other "emergency" situations that undoubtedly cover HJ's. None of
which were carried out expeditiously and was the opposite in fact.
Furthermore, you'd be wrong. The G8 Summit just prior was not to let HJ'ed
AC do as they will.



Nope,. but you have to have planes in the air. You can't really shoot a
missile at it (a new idea after 9/11) over a city and you don't know
until it occurs, just what city.

Huh! And you are claiming that these alert birds and HJ AC just appear where
they are in position to crash into their target or in the case of intercepts
where the highjacked AC are going to attack?

You know how foolish you are sounding? Highjacked over Northern Mass and
then in a blink of an eye, like a UFO, appear crashing into its target in
NYC with no chance to attempt to turn it away from the metropolis and
downing it as a last resort for not following intercepted procedures. Yes as
a last resort, before it came close enough to inflict horrific damage and
casualties in NYC. An intercept is air superiority.

Now this applies to all the AC that day especially FL 77.
snicker