copertopkiller wrote:


1) Pat attention to the warnings of AC Highjackings AND Highjacked AC as
weapons into American Targets.

What warnings? Yes, there were AQ members 'learning' to fly but not to
land or take off. We had no specific targets or dates, so any action to
have been taken would have been of a very general nature.


What warnings? I can see you are either a moron or a shill. In either case
get yourself together. How many times will you trumpet that retarded
statement of 'we had no specific targets or dates..." as an excuse for NO
ACTION being taken?

And I replied with a question about what should have been done. We had
not specific targets or dates. It is easy for you sit there on your
fat, ignorant ass and scream "We shouda' done sumptin'". What
*exactly* would *you* have done? What areas? What airlines? What
resource? What buildings? Where?

An example for your "what warnings?" statement. One of many if you cared to
be informed. NOTE: it ain't on dat dare TeeeVeee

Of course not. It probably isn't in Snopes either.

David Schippers, noted conservative Chicago lawyer and the House Judiciary
Committee's chief investigator in the Clinton impeachment trial, claims two
days after 9/11 that he had tried to warn federal authorities about plans to
strike buildings in lower Manhattan. Schippers says, "I was trying to get
people to listen to me because I had heard that the terrorists had set up a
three-pronged attack:" an American airplane, the bombing of a federal
building in the heartland and a massive attack in lower Manhattan. He tries
contacting Attorney General John Ashcroft, the White House, and even the
House managers with whom he had worked, but nobody returns his phone calls.
"People thought I was crazy. What I was doing was I was calling everybody I
knew telling them that this has happened," he says. "I'm telling you the
more I see of the stuff that's coming out, if the FBI had even been awake
they would have seen it." He also claims to know of ignored warnings about
the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, and evidence that Middle Easterners were
connected with that attack. [Indianapolis Star, 5/18/02] Other mainstream
sources have apparently shied away from Schippers' story, but he has added
details in an interview on the partisan Alex Jones Show. He claims that it
is FBI agents in Chicago and Minnesota who first contact him and tell him
that a terrorist attack is going to occur in lower Manhattan. A group of
these agents now want to testify about what they know, but want legal
protection from government retribution. [Alex Jones Show 10/10/01]

ROFLMAO!!!! Wow, what a source. I am not denying that it could be
true, but I am not about to accept that without further verification.
Hell, I can call into talk shows and make statements. Ever listen to
Art Bell?

2) Brief FAA Officials of these non-actionable (cough) warnings and tell
them to not to scratch their heads at:

a) the first sign of trouble
b) when it is know to be highjacked


only to talk amongst themselves. Instead, clarify that they are to

expedite

FAA Procedures of intercept then contact The President. If the errant,
Highjacked AC would not follow intercept orders a decision could be made

to

take more drastic measures. It isn't that difficult.



Most didn't, since the first sign of trouble was at the time of the
hijackings.


Most didn't? Most didn't what, moron?

Read the ****ing thread, you moron. You were talking about what the FAA
officials should have done. I replied that most didn't [do any of those
things]. Sheeesh, you can't even follow your own thread.

If you're going to try and convince
yourself that you are in reality you will need to put up a better argument.

Wanna stop the kneejerk so we can discuss? Or not....your choice.

Excuse me, but until 9/11, the paradyme for hijacking was not to
interfere and obey what the hijackers were telling you to do. Until
9/11, hijacking was used as a method of simply flying somewhere that was
not on the the flight plan. Usually, the flight crew and passengers
were released or ended up unharmed. 9/11 changed that.


Can you cite one FAA procedure that specifically states this? No, you can't
because there is no such document.

Didn't say there was so go feed your own straw man. I stated what had
been happening prior to 9/11. Were you born on the 12th?

There are however quite a few procedures
that call for intercepts on errant, nordo, unidentified AC doing what they
will and other "emergency" situations that undoubtedly cover HJ's. None of
which were carried out expeditiously and was the opposite in fact.

I am probably more aware of those procedures than you are. Of course,
feel free to publish the procedures that you think cover resistance to
the hijackers other than to notify the ground, follow the lead of what
they tell you to do and percerve the safety of the passengers. That
safety was rarely in doubt prior to 9/11.

Furthermore, you'd be wrong. The G8 Summit just prior was not to let HJ'ed
AC do as they will.

Which I am sure that all the pilots and airline officials that you know
attended.

Nope,. but you have to have planes in the air. You can't really shoot a
missile at it (a new idea after 9/11) over a city and you don't know
until it occurs, just what city.


Huh! And you are claiming that these alert birds and HJ AC just appear where
they are in position to crash into their target or in the case of intercepts
where the highjacked AC are going to attack?

Do you know how few birds there were on alert on 9/11? Do you know who
had to give the order for those birds to shoot down an airliner?

You know how foolish you are sounding? Highjacked over Northern Mass and
then in a blink of an eye, like a UFO, appear crashing into its target in
NYC with no chance to attempt to turn it away from the metropolis and
downing it as a last resort for not following intercepted procedures.

Those procedures weren't in place prior to 9/11.

Yes as
a last resort, before it came close enough to inflict horrific damage and
casualties in NYC. An intercept is air superiority.



Now this applies to all the AC that day especially FL 77.

None of the planes involved in 9/11 were shot down, you moron. Not even
FL 77. The passengers on the flight that crashed in PA were on their
way to a violent death in a building until one or more of them found out
what was going on with other aircraft. Until that point, there was no
resistance to where the plane was going.



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