On Sunday, November 9, 2014 8:51:55 PM UTC-8, Steve Leonard wrote:
On Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:02:56 PM UTC-6, Andy Blackburn wrote:
If you fly where other pilots are without a Flarm expect some disapproval. If
you persist and something happens, it is possible that you or your estate may
be vulnerable to legal action for negligence.

9B
Andy,
Don't get me wrong. I fly with FLARM. But could you please show me where anything is said about the Moriarty OLC Campp being FLARM Manditory? Your legal threat is the sort of thing that will put people off from attending such events. Encourage people to participate, don't threaten them. If someone says they aren't going to fly with FLARM, the organizer can deal with how to handle the person. Far as I know, you are not the organizer, so please, back down on your threats of legal action because you feel that flight without FLARM is dangerous. I have flown Moriarty. I have gone the same directions as the big guys, and never seen them. Played the traces back from OLC uploads, and I didn't miss seeing them, we never got within FLARM range of each other.

Let the Moriarty Group speak for their requirements for attendance. If you don't like it, tell them. If they won't change, don't go at that time. Pick another time to go fly this amazing site when it won't be so crowded.

Steve Leonard
VJS

I believe Andy's comments, as well as mine, were not intended to discourage participation in this event. Instead, they were intended to encourage making Flarm mandatory in such events or at least strongly encourage participants to have flarms, especially if the expected number is high. there was no mention of PowerFlarm at all in the original post, which was the reason for my comment. As Andy pointed out, Nephi is not much different than Moriarty (I flown both). Of course you can fly on any direction from just about most places, but pilots tend to congregate under the best looking cloud street, and within 50 miles radius from the airport the congregation is even higher. Also no one is suggesting that Flarm is more important than transponder, in places Like Moriarty both should be required IMHO.
It is about time that every cross country pilot who can afford owning his own ship and participate in such camps, should have both transponder and PowerFlarm installed and stop risking other people's lives. There, I said it.

Ramy