At 15:30 14 March 2015, kirk.stant wrote:
On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 10:18:50 AM UTC-5, pcool wrote:
Now I understand, thank you very much.
Well it seems OGN is going to pay back the privacy issue. Their OGN
track=
er=20
is going to expire in a few days, and they will now pass through Flarm
to=
=20
get the data decrypted.

Good luck with that, most OGN tracking stations will probably go off air
until
the OGN tracker is released rather than support FLARM out of their own
pocket!!!

Stealth mode was easy to accomplish, very strange, and a very sad=20
conclusion. But I agree that the privacy goes first, it wasnt that hard
t=
o=20
deal with, at all.

Privacy was a non issue, if you put your details on the (previously) open
and
public flarmnet database then you presumably had no worries about your
public data being public!
If you did not put your data on the database then your glider was assigned
a
random and temporary ID so there was no issue with privacy as you could
only be identified if someone watched you take off and manually noted what

random ID you had been assigned for that day! If someone was going to that

length then OGN tracking would be the least of your worries.


I really don't understand your point. Flarm develops a proprietary
product=
that gets adopted by a large part of the gliding community, then gets
hack=
ed and used by a bunch of techno glider geeks. Flarm responds by
protecting=
their (as in, THEY DEVELOPED AND OWN IT) technology and responds to a
mark=
et demand (tracking) by enhancing their system to provide features such
as
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privacy for those who were previously affected by the (possibly illegal)
ha=
cked OGN network.


There was NO hacking involved, all the data was transmitted in clear text (

the anti collision protocol is the only "proprietary " part and OGN were
not
interested in that) the airband is a public and unlicensed one so there was
no
wrongdoing.
There has been no similar criticism of the other tracking network (it's
name
escapes me for the moment) that uses FLARM recievers to feed a central
server, this won't be affected by the update and can access all the data
with
ease!
The trouble started when FlarmNet changed the terms of their open database

and started to slander OGN with the barely hidden support of their
financial
backers (FLARM)
There were a lot of lies put about to try and discredit the OGN network.

And you think Flarm acted incorrectly? Really?

YES


Interesting perspective.

Kirk
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