Then we all agree on the fact that we dont want a monopoly.
I am not by any mean pushing one or another technology, I exactly want what
you write, too.
I cant subscribe a petition like the one in this thread, I think it is
worthless, to be gentle.

Concerning the strawman, it is an english term and it is not in use commonly
although the meaning is clear.
In this case it is abused, I think, and let me say it sounds offensive .
The argumentation about "where is a glider in 30 seconds" made by a 8mhz
device with no math computing power, leaves no doubts to me.
This is why I keep calling it projection, and Andy did explain what I think
better than I can do myself.

Whatever, we all agree it works.


"Tango Eight" wrote in message
...

I'm ill with the 'flu and can't fly or do much else so...

I've been on a conference call with Flarm guys exactly once, mostly
concerned with their data port specification and how to use it best with our
product (n.b. we're still waiting on dataport spec for v6). I bought all my
flarm gear at retail price, through the retail channel. Flarm has never
shared with me any information not already in the public domain.

None of that is really your business, but I'll share just for the sake of
transparency.

The DSX guys have clearly behaved badly enough in a commercial sense to
poison any future possibility of cooperation with Flarm. This was a
*completely* predictable outcome to anyone with a shred of business savvy.
That their proponents won't even acknowledge this explicitly isn't going to
help (bring in "Bones" to deliver a cameo "He's [DSX] dead, Jim"). Am I
happy about the Flarm monopoly? No. I would absolutely love to see a very
basic, inexpensive device (which is what I understand the original Euro
flarm was) made available in USA that I could get my local club guys to buy.
Powerflarm is so expensive that the *only* significant US market is going to
remain competition pilots. At $500, we (that is: safety advocates) could
expand the user base a *lot* and I think that would be a very good thing,
but I don't think Flarm will ever do this.

Complete aside (I'm just killing time waiting on this damned bug to expire):

You don't seem to know what a "Straw Man Argument" is. There are several
good websites devoted to logical fallacies and we can all do well to study
and avoid these common and aggravating rhetorical mistakes.

Example of Straw Man: You insist that Flarm doesn't do "prediction" because
it cannot know *exactly* (i.e. to one wingspan let's say) where a glider
will be in 30 seconds time. This is an absurdly high standard of
"prediction" in this case, because a lower precision estimate of likely
future location is in fact very useful, especially because this can be
rapidly revised if the pilot changes course. What you've done in a
rhetorical sense is construct a towering giant of a foe (the "Straw Man")
which you proceed to knock over trivially, claiming victory, but in fact all
you have done is distract. It's a favorite technique of the political
class: the rubes and ideologues *always* bite. We should all try to be
smarter than that.

I'm quite confident I have done no such thing on this thread.

best,
Evan Ludeman / T8


On Saturday, May 30, 2015 at 8:22:31 AM UTC-4, pcool wrote:
You are the administrator of ClearNav, and you have been working WITH
flarm
in the past to integrate their work into yours.
I think it is unfair to call you a simple retail customer.
I think that you are playing with no success the strawman with us.


"Tango Eight" wrote in message
...

No, I am not affiliated with Flarm. I am a retail customer. See how easy
that is? You ask a question, I give you a simple straight answer. It's
how
civilized adults interact.

There's a song I like to whistle at times like this, and it even involves
a
strawman.

-Evan Ludeman / T8