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Old May 31st 04, 04:31 AM
BUFDRVR
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guiltybystander9 wrote:

I put the word out because at least one active duty person who has posted
here
is on a **** list as a result.


I fail to see how participating in any group could get you on any "list" as
long as you keep your partcipation to what you would discuss at an airshow
(unclassified).

He is never going to know it and he is never
going to understand why certain things happen in his career that cause him
grief.


This seems improbable. In order to end someones career, you document short
comings in OPRs or PRFs, both these would be highly visable. Furthermore,
exactly what are they going to write on the OPR or PRF? "Capt. XXX associated
on the usenet with the worst of rabble." Or on the PRF "Capt. XXX is not worthy
of promotion due to his interest in learning about and educating others on
topics of military aviation"?

There are a million ways to get screwed over in the military.


I really haven't found one yet....

There are also people posting here, ex-military, who those still in and who
have advanced far up the ladder, don't like.


So because Ed may have ****ed off the AF/CV twenty years ago, someone on active
duty will be "black balled" from that level for particiapting in a news group
that Ed also participates in? I doubt it.

** Disclaimer: The above scenario is fictional, I have no idea if Ed has even
met Gen. Mosley

These people do not like to see these individuals get any sort of attention
at
all.


I wouldn't call usenet posts "attention" at any level.

Not even a usenet message board ****ing contest. If you participate, it
will be noticed.


I've been participating since '98 and have managed to make O-4 and been
selected for IDE, if its been noticed, it hasn't affected my career.

But believe me, if you
are active duty, think.


Good advice, think...about keeping your posts unclassified and don't attempt to
use your rank or status to espouse official Air Force policy. Other than that,
and your fine, you'll learn by reading and by posting...at least I have. I've
met people who have read Ed's book and I've been able to say; "Ed and I have
exchanged views and we disagree on...." Its one thing to read someones book,
its another to be able to get into a dialogue with the author.Before "The 11
Days of Christmas" came out and openly challenged the B-52-MiG-21 shootdowns, I
was able to say; "I've exchanged views with a few pointy nosed fighter guys who
flew some of the LBII MiGCAPS and they're pretty sure no MiG-21 got near any
B-52."

Participating in an open forum where military rejects
and propagandists provide much of the content - is that really the smartest
way
to spend your free time?


The key is to avoid the trolls, and while I have been guilty myself of
occasionally trying to set a troll straight (its a waste of time), even that is
harmless to your career.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"