Reducing PPG Concept Urethane
On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 2:16:29 PM UTC-5, Papa3 wrote:
JJ and Hank will chime in, but as an amateur now on his 3rd refinish project, the short answers are "effort and repairs". Polyester topcoat (i.e. Prestec/Simtec in these parts) is reasonably forgiving of less than ideal shop conditions, equipment, lighting, and skill. It goes on thick and encourages "color sanding" - sanding out and polishing. And, when the inevitable nicks and dings happen, it's pretty easy to repair, even in the field (e..g. painting on with a brush or quickly spraying with a preval hobby can). Urethanes on the other hand require pretty much perfect surface preparation - whatever shape the primer is in is essentially what you get in the final coat. It goes on thinner and is harder to sand out without going right through to the primer, which means back to the shop again. And, the stuff is a lot more dangerous to work with in terms of toxicity, requiring a full fresh-air system. Plus, it's harder to repair nicks and dings quickly, though it is quite doable.
I re-did our club's Grob in PPG Concept since it sits tied out mostly year-round, and it's held up very well. Much better than Polyester. But, the quality of the finish in terms of some low spots, a couple of runs, and a few thin spots definitely shows. The good news is that it would be relatively easy at this point (5 years on) to quickly sand off the topcoat, reprime, and get a very good finish. But clubs don't typically do that; they wait until big chunks start falling off, in which case we're back to the really ugly process of sanding off all of the failed primer. Yuck.
p3
Sorta makes me want to ask, "What does does your polisher want to work with?"
I LOVE gelcoat, "heat the crap out of it and load it with wax...". It makes me happy (as well as the wax supplier.... not so much the shop supervisor....).
When I have to hit different coatings (vinyl stickers...."shoot 1st, forget about questions later...fix with monokote", some other paints can be touched but hate heat....sigh....).
I keep saying, "If you want a price on a GOOD wax job, so be it. You want to go around other stickers/paints, PLEASE charge extra...". "Please".
Some finishes are rather easy to get a, "Customer approved, glider happy" result. Trying to "cut in" stickers/different paint, OR, softer finishes sorta ****es off the final polisher. :-(
Since I'm the "end guy", I have to "polish to a price", but what I do is the final result of many steps beforehand.... I can't polish crap (to look really good), but I can make good prep look like crap.
The polisher is the last in the, "Quality to the end user" chain.
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