"Robey Price" wrote in message
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Exactly how is voting for ANY liberal a vote against freedom?


Simple. Liberalism is about controlling people and people that are
controlled by others are not free.


I think I will have to chime in on Stevens side here.

Sure liberals like freedom at home, but to some of us, freedom is not just
something for domestic consumption, but something that everyone deserves, no
matter what their country. Its not just something you are glad you have, but
lament the fact that others in the world do not have it, while having your wine
and cheese.

The American and Euro leftists were content, even at times even happy with
conditions in countries such as the USSR and its enslaved Baltic and Eastern
European countries, Cuba, Nicaragua. People like Marx, Lenin, Ortega and Castro
were and have been darlings of the USA leftists for that matter. Look at the
ongoing love affair between Hollywood leftists (redunant) and Castro.

The left and liberals were thought it was foolish to confront the USSR, and
just plain stupid to have such folly ideas as rolling back Communist/Marxist
totalitarian states in the world. Sen Kerry opposed every, or nearly every
Reagan initative that helped roll defeat the USSR. He certainly ran quickly to
make friends with Ortega in the mid 80s. The American and Euro leftists even
ridiculed Reagan for daring Gorby to tear down the wall, and thought it just
was indicative of their pointy headed intellectual views of him being a
simpleton. The left has not just opposed efforts give other states freedom,
but often actively tried to support those states.

No political party or person has a perfect record in these matters. But when
it comes to trying to help countries that were under totalitarian or marxist
rule, the American and Euro left has a pretty abyssmal record.






Ron
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