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Old June 8th 04, 09:28 AM
Keith Willshaw
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"Denyav" wrote in message
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Which never happened since nobody knew this.
Please none of the 'they broke the codes' bull****.

The IJN didnt transmit the details of this operation,
it was hand carried and the fleet maintained radio silence


No,Sir almost everbody in Washington DC,but surely the names mentioned

above as
all them were informed about attack by Col.Bratton and Thurman personaly.
On Nov.28 They officially informed Hull,Stimson and Knox about japanese

fleets
target.They did not respond.



A tough trick since Japanese approval for the attack
didnt come until Dec 3rd. What happened on Nov 28th was
the decryption of the winds code message sent on Nov 19th
This spoke of breaking off diplomatic warnings.

As a result Kimmel and Short were sent a message that
began "This is to be considered a war warning"

On eve of Pearl Harbor attack the same team intercepted and decipher the

famous
message to Nomura.


Which said nothing about an attack of any sort

Thurman took the message immediately to Adm.Kramer.He took the message but

did
not do anything.
Thurman tried to contact Stark,Turner and Marshall,no avail, apparently

nobody
in Washington DC wants to do something to prevent Pearl Harbor.


So which is it ?

Did he try to contact people or do nothing ?

As last resort Thurman went directly to White House with a car driven by

his
wife and wanted to speak with FDR directly.
But instead of FDR he was ablr to speak to Harry Hopkins.


Indeed , carrying the following message

http://ibiblio.org/pha/myths/14_part.html

So,Mr.Willshaw after Nov.28 Pearl Harbor attack was not surprise attack to
anybody in Washington DC,it was a very welcomed opportunity.
In other words,Washington was decided to make it happen for domestic

politics.


Read the actual message old boy, the most warlike statement
in the thing is

"The Japanese Government regrets to have to notify hereby the
American Government that in view of the attitude of the American
Government it cannot but consider that it is impossible to reach
an agreement through further negotiations."

Hardly a blueprint of the Pearl Harbor attack plan.


Kimmel was fired, I really dont see him staying
silent in such a situation.


Firing is not a very heavy punishment form


For you I'm sure thats true.

Keith




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