But the fact is, with AT available, CDs are not hearing a loud chorus from pilots, "give us long hard ATs with lots of gaggles and landouts." If that were happening, the US RC (That I am not a member of) would be moving in your direction. The RC wants happy pilots, pretty much period. If the pilots start clamoring for long hard ATs, gaggles and landouts, then you'd have some sort of leg to stand on. Till then, my view of the pilot-friendly RC is that they're not going to ram anything down pilots and CDs throats.

John Cochrane