"Robey Price" wrote in message
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After an exhausting session with Victoria's Secret Police, "Thomas J.
Paladino Jr." confessed the following:

European opinion is reflective of the European media... which is about as
diverse as Al-Jazeera vs. Al-Arabya. At least here in the US we have more
than one opinion on the air, so people can accurately make up their
minds.

WTFO? Based upon what evidence? So during the Clinton years when our
country was widely respected by europeans proves your point...how?
Face it, europeans hate gwb...and now more and more they hate american
citizens. That was not the case even during Reagan's 8 years or old
George's 4 years.


Our counrty was never respected by Europe. At least not for the last 30
years or so. If you think that all of this just started with GWB then you
are naive and silly.

The roughly 50-50 split in the UK is proof of "pro or anti" US press?

Combine that with long-standing anti-Americanism and you have a rather
obsinant population that will do anything to keep America from projecting
power anywhere, regardless of the facts or reasoning.

Now you are simply being silly, "long standing" meaning since just
before our invasion of Iraq?

Again, if you think that this all began with and because of Iraq, you're
crazy.


NATO forces went to the sandbox for GW I... Bosnia/Kosovo...and
Afghanistan. **** they're still fighting along side us in Afghanistan.

Yeah, and their populations & media have been against even that from day
one, and are fighting tooth and nail to get them out.


Do you suggest that President Chirac was bribed?
http://www.washtimes.com/world/20040...3158-1229r.htm


Yes.

Ahhh, well you failed the reading test then.

I didn't read the article, but it wouldn't change my opinion.


Why is it so hard to contemplate that citizens and leaders of other
nations do not march lock-step with gwb & company? These same friends,
being France and Germany have consistantly stated that Saddam Hussein
was an evil piece of ****.

Hahahaaaa.... yeah, they 'state' all kinds of things... but at some point
you have to put your money where your mouth is, and it's then that it
becomes very clear exactly where people stand.

You have a very short attention span.

True or False: France participated militarily in Desert Storm
alongside the US?

Because it was endorsed by their masters at the mighty UN.

Contemporaneous US corporate scandals (e.g. Enron, Vivendi, Worldcom)

Vivendi is a French corporation.

Fair enough, you got me there...and the 27 June 2003 arbitration case
over Messier's termination severance was held in New York...some say
NY is located in the US.

I live in NY and it is indeed in the US. And so what? It is a French
corporation, he sits in a Frech jail right now.

However, Ken Lay (of Enron fame and impending
federal indictment) was one of gwb's major contributors.

And Ken Lay also spent several nights in the Lincoln Bedroom under CLINTON.
What does that prove? Nothing. In fact, the fact that the justice department
has gone after him so hard proves that there is no improper relationship
between he and the administration.


LOL... the manufactured outrage over these things is appaling. I don't
care
if prisoners are being 'abused'. It ain't torture, no matter how many UN
types and other liberals speak with red-faced indignation about the
subject.

I'd suggest you should be mildly interested.

We are engaged in a war of images and and ideas surely as any armed
combat. The US must convince the collective consciousness of the
world, particularly the Arab world. The pictures of humiliation and
the memos saying, "OK Prez you don't have to abide by the Geneva
Conventions if you don't want to," do nothing to help us convince
arabs gwb isn't simply settling an old score or attacking the muslim
religion.

Screw 'em.


Tell me what we need them for. Please. Because they've already stated
that
they won't send troops under any circumstances, and their respective
economies are completely stagnant, so I wouldnt count on much in the way
of
money, either. So no troops and no cash. What do we need them for?

I agree that France will not send troops to fight, but France will be
sending police/gendarmerie to establish a police academy in a
soverieign Iraq (according to Dominique de Villepin in a Feb 2004
interview). I suspect your snapshot analysis of the french economy is
not an accurate predictor of future assistance.

It's hardly a 'snapshot' when it's been stagnant for the last 20 years.