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Old July 3rd 04, 08:18 PM
Keith Willshaw
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"Denyav" wrote in message
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But Mr.Churchill clearly stated "..military and diplomatic.." which

includes
JN25 too.


He didnt say 'ALL military' so it clearly does not


BOTH,military and diplomatic.period.


I both watched TV and listened to radio today.
This does not mean I watched all 200 TV channels
and listened to the 30 or so radio channels
available to me.

This cannot be construed as anything but an alert against
possible attack. The fact that it named other locations
as 'likely' targets hardly ruled out Hawaii.


What HM gov't would do if they received a specific terror warning for

London?
1)Issue a terror alert for London
2)Issue terror alerts for Montevideo,Montreal,Athens and Cairo,but not for
London.

Which one would be the correct response?


None of the above, they would issue the orders
necessary to counter the threat, as has been done many times


In short he was fired, hardly an exoneration !


You forgat to mention that Naval court of inquiry decision EXONORATED

Kimmel
but courts decision was OVERTURNED by Forrestal and King.


Nope, the court didnt exonerate him, they excused
his errors and blamed the army.

In other word overturning courts decision was a political move to save

their
own asses.Note further that the court stated clearly that there was

NO information suggesting an attack on Hawaii


Court based its decision mainly on so called War Warning message and

considered
it as an attempt to divert attention away from PH than warn PH.


A view that was overturned by every subsequent inquiry and
was self serving, their major interest was proving that it
wasnt the fault of the USN.

to Hawaii during November or December,
1941, the attack of 7 December at Pearl Harbor, delivered under the
circumstances then existing, was unpreventable and that when it would


None of Crane documents were available to court or Kimmel at that time.


Irrelevant

Even members Congress conducting a mini probe on Pearl Harbor in 1995 were
denied access to the files.


Not really, they reported that the BRITISH Government was unwilling to
declassify
material relevant to the Pearl Harbor intelligence issue because it was
subject to the
UK-USA Intelligence Agreement, they made no complaint about US files
being withheld

In other words Congress members were allowed to investigate Pearl Harbor
incident on behalf American Public but even they were not allowed to see

Pearl
Harbor documents.


See above

Note the so called 1995 probe was in fact an attempt to reinstate the
reputations
of Kimmel and Short at the urging of their families and was far from being
an full or impartial inquiry

http://users.erols.com/nbeach/kimmel.html

Under these circumstances Naval Courts decision to exonorate Kimmel based

on
correct interpretation of so called War Warning becomes even more

important.

Trouble is the 12 subsequent inquiries, including the extremely through
1946 congressional investigation ALL overthrew that result.

Kimmel just made too many mistakes.

Keith