Yeah I'm asking for numbers. I own and fly a ballasted 20. And I've towed my share of contests at Perry and New Castle. I'm asking someone to look in their manual and give me their numbers. I know what the slowest I've towed even a club glider is. I know my 45 degree bank thermal speed full of water.. I still thermal slower than my slowest tow...and towing is a lower bank angle so more margin than thermalling with gliders in 3 quadrants. So the "about to stall" thing on tow is why I ask for numbers. "Feel" is not something I can reference as a tow pilot. If it's for your own comfort, I'd suggest asking for a specific speed. Not "faster." Personally in my 20, flaps 4 and ballasted I feel like I'm standing on my pedals. I usually back off the flap to 3 or 3A once up and settled. Maybe we just tow faster around these parts...

Jordan