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Old August 25th 17, 01:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Pete Smith[_5_]
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Default Anyone Ground-Launched a Russia Glider?

This will only end in a broken glider and pilot

At 06:27 25 August 2017, Peter Whitehead wrote:
On Friday, 25 August 2017 06:00:47 UTC+1, Frank Whiteley wrote:
On Thursday, August 24, 2017 at 9:05:04 PM UTC-6,


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rote:
Hello,
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I fly out of Hobbs, NM where we don't have a tow plane. We

launch
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ctly by auto-tow. I am interested in a Russia AC-4B but am not
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ground launching from a nose hook. We currently fly Schweizer 1-26's

and
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a 2-33, which has the hook located between the nose and the CG.

When you
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limb high enough you can get a porpoising effect due to the tail stalling
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unstalling. I would imagine this only gets worse with a hook in the
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but I can't find anyone who has done it. The manual indicates that it
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be done, but I wonder how much height you have to give up due to

the hook
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location. I am also a little concerned about the angle being too sharp

on
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the nose hook and possibly keeping it from releasing.
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Has anyone flown (or seen) a Russia glider ground launched by the

nose
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hook?
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Thanks in advance,
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Stephen


Stephen, I would advise strongly against it. The only exception would

be a
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"nose" hook with a back release like the Twin Lark IS28B2 (which also

has
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proper winch hook). You would, in that case, get a lousy launch but it
sho=
uldn't kill you. I wouldnt let my son use such an arrangement, and it

also
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fails the "I would try it myself" test. Run a mile. I own five old
gliders,=
two of which have the "compromise" hook, and they certainly do the
porpois=
ing on the winch or aut-tow as you describe. I have two IS29d's, one

with
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ust a compromise hook and the other with a "winch hook" as well, the
differ=
ence on the launch ( height as well as behaviour) is huge.=20
The wheel has been invented, go for a round one, not a square one.

Pete