On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 4:33:26 PM UTC-5, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
Not at Kirk....just a way to post through iPad......

Cell info RELIES on a cell connection.
Pretty much PERIOD.

If out of suitable range of a cell tower, ANY cell info is either lost or may be so out of date you get the warning AFTER the midair.
So, what's the point?

You need ship to ship info rather quick.

You want to follow a friend or competitor? Then some lag is sorta OK.

You want to avoid a ship to ship collision, a "RIGHT NOW" may not be enough. Back to eyeballs, regardless of how imperfect they may be.

Sheesh, I hate "nannies" and I hate some rules (like mandatory helmet laws for motorcycles).

But.......I will like pay attention to nannies and you will likely NEVER catch me on a motorcycle without a helmet. Even if I am "putt putting" in front of my house. Taken from someone that broke their back 35 years ago from a car that didn't yield on a small highway.They were wrong, I broke my back.
You may be right, you may also be dead right.
I prefer, "see and avoid, hope I can testify at the hearing......".

[frikkin Internet has created so many "muscle men" that would likely fold in person.....].....sigh....in general, not at Kirk at this point, or at Gregg, at this point....

Hi Charlie,

With 2 Kirks now it's getting confusing, but a good heated discussion is always fun, as long as it stays civil.

Totally agree about any cell-based solution; it's more for spectating on the ground than real save-your-life stuff.

And I'm totally with you on the Nanny-state thing - I like to make my own researched decision rather than accept whatever some functionary/lawyer decides is best for me!

The really tragic thing about this whole ADS-B debacle is that the FAA managed to take a basically simple idea and make it so complicated that we are all arguing with each other about it! For us VFR flyers it should have been a $500 gizmo that told everybody where you are and would let you see everybody. At that price, they could have GIVEN the darn things to all VFR pilots for less than the cost of one mid-air.

Anyway, I had fun this Saturday flying XC and watching all the ADS-B and transponder traffic on my PF.

Cheers,

Kirk